CT-Rich
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You are always a new diver when you move to a new dive environment.
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Agree. That's why I'm figuring the poll is about the basic techniques of diving.You are always a new diver when you move to a new dive environment.
Are you talking about Brian (Edit: Dave) Shaw and his rebreather cave recovery dive to 270m
No matter how many tech dives ou have done, you are a beginner cave diver. A hundred shore dives, you are beginner wreck diver. Being the balls in one area of diving doesn’t give you competency in a new area. The “hold my beer, let me show you how it’s done” mentality of some divers is where the trouble comes in.I think the "new environment" argument is as lame as any other. A bad diver with 1000 dives is going to be just as bad in any new environment. A GOOD diver with 30 dives, is going to be much more apt to adapt to said environment quickly and safely.
A new environment doesn't necessarily a "beginner" make. A good diver will adapt quickly and safely and will very quickly be as adept in whatever environment. I think @Searcaigh 's astute use of the word "learner" is much more applicable. He's certainly not a "beginner," and I would posit a guess that he could just as quickly adapt to ice diving as any of the other diving he has done. The converse is that a new environment might make a poor diver worse, but at that point we're really just splitting hairs. Not splitting hares. That's messy.
I retract some of my recent post. This makes sense.I think the "new environment" argument is as lame as any other. A bad diver with 1000 dives is going to be just as bad in any new environment. A GOOD diver with 30 dives, is going to be much more apt to adapt to said environment quickly and safely.
A new environment doesn't necessarily a "beginner" make. A good diver will adapt quickly and safely and will very quickly be as adept in whatever environment. I think @Searcaigh 's astute use of the word "learner" is much more applicable. He's certainly not a "beginner," and I would posit a guess that he could just as quickly adapt to ice diving as any of the other diving he has done. The converse is that a new environment might make a poor diver worse, but at that point we're really just splitting hairs. Not splitting hares. That's messy.
No matter how many tech dives ou have done, you are a beginner cave diver. A hundred shore dives, you are beginner wreck diver. Being the balls in one area of diving doesn’t give you competency in a new area. The “hold my beer, let me show you how it’s done” mentality of some divers is where the trouble comes in.