DSMB size - is 6’ overkill ?

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What size is most appropriate depends entirely on what you're using it for. The most popular size local to me is the 3-4 foot version. That works well in most places in Puget Sound, since it's an inland sea and fairly protected. Around here the biggest waves we might encounter on a given day is when the ferry goes by. Small DSMBs are easy to deploy and generally work well in fairly protected conditions.

When we move out to the Straits, or out into open water in places along the coast, the smaller bag is fairly useless because conditions are choppier and it's more difficult to see, particularly if it's laying down in the water. A bigger bag is a more practical choice in those conditions. But larger bags are more difficult to deploy, and introduce potential risks for the less experienced diver, who may struggle with buoyancy while deploying it or risk getting pulled up if the line's mishandled. As with all gear there's a trade-off that needs to be weighed against your application and experience, in terms of risk-mitigation.

As for how much line you need, depends entirely on how deep you plan to deploy. Give it about a 2-to-1 margin (depth-to-distance) to account for currents. Anything below about 75 feet means (for me) that I bring a 400-foot reel rather than a finger spool. Reels are harder to manage during deployment because there's a higher risk of rats-nesting if you mishandle the line. So you need to practice how to deploy while keeping a slight bit of tension in the line at all time while the bag's ascending. I use my index finger to maintain just a slight pressure on the side of the reel while it's deploying. Spools are easier because you can usually just let go and allow the weight of the spool to maintain tension while it's deploying ... you just have to remember to grab the spool once it stops spinning, or it'll sink.

Smaller bags are generally closed-cell. Larger ones can be open or semi-closed. I like the semi-closed ... it allows me to use a second-stage for inflation without too much extra effort, and I don't have to worry about keeping pressure on the line to prevent the bag from going sideways on the surface and letting all the air out. Seems like a nice compromise.

Like most equipment choices, which works best depends a lot on where you're using it. As to the comments about boat distances, I'd prefer to get my bag on the surface before the current pulls me too far from where I expect the boat to be. There have been times I shot a bag while quite deep, managed an ascent that took me far from the intended dive site, and came up with the boat right next to me ... they just followed my bag as the current took me for a ride. Visibility is important, but it's even more important if you suspect the current's taking you to get that bag on the surface ASAP ... the closer it surfaces to the boat, the better ... especially if you anticipate a lengthy ascent.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
This is a useful thread, and several posts prompt some comments.
Can I assume people think closed SMBs with OPV is the way to go? As opposed to open bottom?
You certainly run much less of a risk of uncommanded bag/marker deflation with a closed init. I actually use a number of open circuit lift bags and generally don't have any particular problem. But, the closed units are more reliable.

Currently, the Halcyon 6’ Slim seems to be a front-runner but the cost is killing me!
I can understand. But, I also think you get what you pay for. Good scuba products are seldom inexpensive, although cheap scuba products may be. Halcyon products, in particular, reflect 'full-bodied' pricing - they are not inexpensive by any means. But, my personal experience with Halcyon is that a) their products are very well-made, very durable, very functional, b) Halcyon fully stands behind their products, and c) you get value for the price you pay. No, I am not a Halcyon dealer, nor does all of my gear have a little blue 'H', so this isn't a commercial for the brand. I am just honestly saying that I have been very happy with the Halcyon products that I own. And, I have received very good support from Halcyon when I have (rarely) had issues with their products.

I have a 6ft Halcyon DAM, the large diameter unit that is now referred to as their Super DAM. I have had it for at least 10 years, it works well, and I am happy with it. It is easy to deploy, and easy to control, both during filling, and at the surface after filling.

I don't have trouble stowing the larger unit, but that may reflect how much gear I take on a dive and how I stow it. I don't try to stow a lot of extra gear in pockets, although I have pockets on the thighs on my wetsuits and drysuits. In the case of my SMB, it is attached to my backplate with bungees, easy to deploy but also stowed in a streamlined manner.

I carry the SMB primarily for open ocean diving. As several have already mentioned, it is impressive how difficult it may be to see a surface marker if there are even small to moderate swells - the water doesn't have to be 'rough' at all. And, if I surface at any distance from a boat, that difficulty exponentially increases. I want something tall and wide to maximize the likelihood of being seen. I don't feel the need to own a smaller unit for less rigorous conditions, because the 6ft SMB is, at least from my perspective, both functional and relatively easy to carry and deploy.

My thinking is a) I will do everything I can to avoid needing to use a SMB to be seen, but b) if I need to use a SMB, I want to be equipped with one that is large enough to give me a good chance of being spotted. The preferences of other divers may vary.
 
My other thought about those slim bags is that height isn't the only determinant of visibility. A slim bag might stick up high enough, but depending on conditions and sun angle it might also be more difficult to see than a shorter, but larger diameter bag ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Hey @Dogbowl, it looks like DanT and others have pretty much covered what I was talking about. Personally, I like the semi closed bags. You can just stick the nozzle in the bottom of the bag, inflate, and then it does a great job of sealing itself and holding all the air on the surface. I use the nozzle that DanT said he has collecting dust. Mine works great. Whatever nozzle you use though, deploying the bag works the same way.
 
I went back and read @dant s post more carefully, I think I understand what he's saying now. I suppose putting a thin blow gun tip into the oral inflator tube of the SMB will work just fine; I've never tried it. With my semi-closed bag, I just stick the whole nozzle inside the bottom of the bag, point it up, and press the blow gun tip to the side. It's easy and I never waste a bubble of gas.
 
I went back and read @dant s post more carefully, I think I understand what he's saying now. I suppose putting a thin blow gun tip into the oral inflator tube of the SMB will work just fine; I've never tried it. With my semi-closed bag, I just stick the whole nozzle inside the bottom of the bag, point it up, and press the blow gun tip to the side. It's easy and I never waste a bubble of gas.

I don't understand the want of another hose. But..., I don't dive locally. I usually need to fly to where I want to dive. One less hose is just easier for me. I would rather use my spare reg to fill from the bottom of the bag.

I also don't understand how a closed bottom DSMB is easier to dry. Hang an open bottom and prop the bottom. Gravity works.

I kind of get calling it a "semi-open" bottom. But, to me, it's either open bottom, or it's not.
 
I don't understand the want of another hose. But..., I don't dive locally. I usually need to fly to where I want to dive. One less hose is just easier for me. I would rather use my spare reg to fill from the bottom of the bag.

I also don't understand how a closed bottom DSMB is easier to dry. Hang an open bottom and prop the bottom. Gravity works.

I kind of get calling it a "semi-open" bottom. But, to me, it's either open bottom, or it's not.
With a closed DSMB, no water gets into the bag at all, it has a one way valve.
 
@Snoweman, on a single tank set up, I can see where adding an additional hose starts to complicate things, at least with respect to getting the freakin regulator out the bag and sorted out! Dividing all your hoses up on two separate regs (for doubles) makes it easier. In the case where you are using a regulator (either single or doubles) with a long hose configuration where you donate your primary and have your secondary bungeed under your neck, using that secondary for inflation is a serious pain. It's just not worth trying to pull the bungeed regulator from around your neck. If you have single tank set up with an octopus on a longer hose, I can see where it could work. On other plus for the blow gun though is that there is nothing to snag when you let go of the bag. With a regulator, I can see an scenario where the bottom strap on the bag snags your regulator as you release it and now you have to deal with trying to get loose from a run-away bag.
 
@RyanT , am I correct to assume that on a single tank setup, the extra hose could be attached to the right waist d-ring? Or left? I suppose it depends where my gauge is attached. I like it up on my left chest d-ring. Much easier to see there.
 
I would rather use my spare reg to fill from the bottom of the bag.

I also don't understand how a closed bottom DSMB is easier to dry. Hang an open bottom and prop the bottom. Gravity works.

I kind of get calling it a "semi-open" bottom. But, to me, it's either open bottom, or it's not.

I used to have an extra air hose with a nozzle, but found that a reg will actually fill a bag quicker.

I can only imagine open bottoms dry quicker. I have found using a horizontal rail (usually overhead grab rail) while still on the boat is the easiest way to empty air and any water out of the marker. You sort of pull the marker over the rail while holding the OPV open.

I use open bottom bags and markers and never had one deflate at the surface, the baffles seem to work well.

A plus for bigger markers: I used a 6ft marker to pluck a small anchor and 12ft of chain off a wreck two weekends ago. It was sitting with about 3ft above the surface, I don't know if a 3ft or slim marker would have been enough. Or, I could have brought my lift bag instead of 2 markers.
 

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