Jupiter diver in trauma center after ‘upper extremity’ injury

[scubadada]

True, but it reminds us to be mindful there are some risks inherent in these dives. The same is true wreck diving, cave diving, deep diving, pretty much going underwater diving... Scuba Board recently lost a fairly new member to a dive on the Spiegel Grove. Kinda hit home; I've dove that wreck 3 times a few years back. Watching this thread, I'm mindful that I did 7 dives with the Emerald just a few weeks back. My impression is much the same; hate to hear somebody got hurt bad (or killed), but I make a calculated risk assessment when I choose what kind of dives to do.

My point is, I don't think this will cause a large scale drop-off in interest in doing these dives. Now, as far as opponents using it as a weapon against shark feed diving? Oh, yeah. Just as somebody dying at Eagles Nest provides ammo. to people who want that site shut down.

I suspect there is a substantial risk differential between being a professional shark feeder handing out food, vs. being an observer/customer at a distance.

Richard.

You can rationalize it any way you want to.

 

[tilikum]

I was just going to say something to that effect. We can rationalize anything if we stretch far enough.

 

[wgw04024]

What are the odds someone on that dive has this on video?

 

[drrich2]

Nothing to rationalize; just by way of explanation. Most any kind of diving that appears excessively dangerous or objectionable to people who choose not to engage in it is subject to attack (e.g.: solo, cave, deep air, shark feed). And those who choose to engage in it have their reasons.

If the injured diver is indeed Randy Jordan as rumored, and he makes a good recovery without substantial ongoing impairment, I suspect he'll continue offering (and working on) these dives.

Richard.

 

[DoNotDstrb]

What are the odds someone on that dive has this on video?

Pretty good... Also pretty good odds you'll never see it...

 

[Jayfarmlaw]

Saw this posted on Facebook.
7 hrs ·
" So prayers out to my brother Randy Jordan... I was informed that he was in tarama surgery yesterday... Not positive.. But think a Shark bite...an his hand an wrist needed some reattachment."

Hope he recovers fast. Hope to dive with him soon.

Jay

 

[wgw04024]

Nothing to rationalize; just by way of explanation. Most any kind of diving that appears excessively dangerous or objectionable to people who choose not to engage in it is subject to attack (e.g.: solo, cave, deep air, shark feed). And those who choose to engage in it have their reasons.

I understand that. I really don't have a horse in this race (or any other more dangerous diving). As long as it isn't directly endangering others (without them knowing), I really don't have a problem with people doing what they choose. People probably said that at the beginning of diving in and of itself in the beginning...

 

[tekkydiver]

Wow, the guy is grossly overweight and shouldn't even be diving. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make a stop at the Cardiac Cath Lab, while he's in the hospital. Seriously though, The county's only trauma helicopter was not available for anyone else while taking care of this individual. Imagine if a child in an accident had to be airlifted?

 

[drrich2]

Wow, the guy is grossly overweight and shouldn't even be diving.

Based on what? Water sports, including scuba, offer a form of low-impact exercise. Lots of us 'grossly overweight' people dive and have a great time. When I saw Randy in early May, he wasn't a skinny man, but he wasn't huffing, puffing or 'spherical' either. I actually thought at the time he looked leaner than I expected from prior photos.

Richard.

 

[Wookie]

Wow, the guy is grossly overweight and shouldn't even be diving. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make a stop at the Cardiac Cath Lab, while he's in the hospital. Seriously though, The county's only trauma helicopter was not available for anyone else while taking care of this individual. Imagine if a child in an accident had to be airlifted?

I guess it would wait for the next chopper, just like if there were a multi-car pileup in the fog or a mass shooting at the mall.

People are under the impression that diving is safe, and that some types of diving is dangerous. Let me tell you the truth, folks. Diving isn't safe. Diving can be done safely. I don't care if it's trimix (I do this) or wrecks (I do this) or caves (I don't do this) or feed sharks (I hire someone else to do this, and she's been bit 3 times now), it can be done safely. If you didn't get the message, diving is not safe. If it were safe, insurance companies would have no problems with it, and you wouldn't have to get an extra policy to cover your "special diving accidents" that you can't hardly get any other way. When was the last time you heard of decompression illness while riding motocross, or an air embolism while sitting on the couch? I have no idea if Randy conducts his dives safely or not, I've never been on one of his dives. I have been on and sponsored shark dives where they are fed, and it isn't my bag, but some folks are nuts for it, just like some of us may be nuts for pretty reef and big fish.

Diving isn't safe, but it can be done safely.