Is this Vandenburg Art Exhibit for Real?

[beertiki]

I am a DM at a local dive shop in Key West and I guide divers on the Vandenberg several times a week. Everything in the video looked very professional. As a guide my job is to make sure my divers have a safe, good time. The guide in the video did this well. He monitored the air consumption of all his divers, made sure they were OK throughout the dive, and after each swim threw. My guess is his slate at the end said something about deep/safety stops, also great hand over hand on the line signal when they reached the line. What you did not see in the video, but my guess is, it was done, was a detailed dive briefing and plan with the guide and the 3 customers. Most of this dive was 90 -100 feet, they only were deeper than 100 for about one minute. The dive operation in the video requires every diver on the Vandenberg to have a computer (we send our divers to them if we do not have a boat going out). Most boats do a 1 hour SI before the 2nd dive and my guess is most guides spend a good amount of time on the 2nd dive in the 70 - 80 ft range as NDLs get close. Everything in the video looked like it should have, a guide that monitored the safety of his divers while showing them a great wreck.

 

[acteg]

Hey scubaboard,

I didn't mean to stir up such a controversy with my video. As to why it is shaky; it's partly due to being cold from the very wet ride in 6' seas and holding the camera just in my hand... No tray or handle of any kind. It's also the third time I've use the camera.

Did we have computers? Yes. Did we bust ndl? No. We're we given a thorough dive briefing? Yes. The poster who said you don't know what you don't know is correct but I do believe capt's corner runs a safe operation and we all felt very comfortable the whole time. I also felt like the guide was watching us like a mother goose the whole dive.

Ive got thick skin and an open mind so I appreciate l the comments thus far. I like the saying, If you think you know everything, you can't learn much, so thanks again for the feedback.

Any typos in my response I blame on the iPhone.

 

[gcarter]

Hey scubaboard,

I didn't mean to stir up such a controversy with my video. As to why it is shaky; it's partly due to being cold from the very wet ride in 6' seas and holding the camera just in my hand... No tray or handle of any kind. It's also the third time I've use the camera.

Did we have computers? Yes. Did we bust ndl? No. We're we given a thorough dive briefing? Yes. The poster who said you don't know what you don't know is correct but I do believe capt's corner runs a safe operation and we all felt very comfortable the whole time. I also felt like the guide was watching us like a mother goose the whole dive.

Ive got thick skin and an open mind so I appreciate l the comments thus far. I like the saying, If you think you know everything, you can't learn much, so thanks again for the feedback.

Any typos in my response I blame on the iPhone.

Cool. Safe to say that delivery here is sometimes lacking - myself included - but it is because people DO care, not because they don't.

Safe diving!

 

[dumpsterDiver]

I am a DM at a local dive shop in Key West and I guide divers on the Vandenberg several times a week. Everything in the video looked very professional. As a guide my job is to make sure my divers have a safe, good time. The guide in the video did this well. He monitored the air consumption of all his divers, made sure they were OK throughout the dive, and after each swim threw. My guess is his slate at the end said something about deep/safety stops, also great hand over hand on the line signal when they reached the line. What you did not see in the video, but my guess is, it was done, was a detailed dive briefing and plan with the guide and the 3 customers. Most of this dive was 90 -100 feet, they only were deeper than 100 for about one minute. The dive operation in the video requires every diver on the Vandenberg to have a computer (we send our divers to them if we do not have a boat going out). Most boats do a 1 hour SI before the 2nd dive and my guess is most guides spend a good amount of time on the 2nd dive in the 70 - 80 ft range as NDLs get close. Everything in the video looked like it should have, a guide that monitored the safety of his divers while showing them a great wreck.

Well there you have it folks... from an expert with local knowledge.. that was what a professional, guided dive should look like.

Redundancy: not required
Multiple lights: not needed
Advanced Certification: Strictly Optional
Checking on customers during a penetration: Once ever minute or so is cool.

 

[Orlando Eric]

WoW -- This reminds me of a tactical class I took with MAssad Ayoob in 1992. He introduced me to a concept I use all the time now but previously was unfamiliar with.

Unconcious Incompetence - You are incompetent and you do not know you are incompetent because you lack the knowledge to even know what that is.
Concious Incompetence - You are incompetent and you know it. You are aware of the things you do not know but are learning more all the time.
Conciuos Competence - You know how to do it and what skills are required but you have to make a concious effort to remember to apply the skills.
Unconcious Competence- You have the knowledge and skills. It is automatic to apply the knowledge and skills.

I could put everyone in that video at Unconcious Incompetence. I excuse the new divers as they did the "trust me" dive and just did not know any better. As a new diver it is expected to me a UI. The GUIDE should be at a minimum CC but is still at UI -- more over yet there is another one defending his UI.

 

[billinwilliamston]

Hi,

Just thought I would blow the dust off this thread and un-hijack it for a moment. I was told last night that the exhibit is coming down this morning. I know it's kind of useless to say "if you haven't seen it, you missed it", but, if you haven't seen it, you missed it.

 

[sportxlh]

Hi,

Just thought I would blow the dust off this thread and un-hijack it for a moment. I was told last night that the exhibit is coming down this morning. I know it's kind of useless to say "if you haven't seen it, you missed it", but, if you haven't seen it, you missed it.

Thanks for the 'heads up'. I dove the Vandenberg 4 times in May and while the exhibit was a bit unusual, I'm glad I saw it.

 

[billinwilliamston]

Bye bye.

 

[nimoh]

that's too bad, it would have been nice to do a dive where there were interesting things to see. Guess I'll have to settle for plain old shipwrecks, and coral reefs

 

[iluvtheocean]

even if i miss the artwork -- the Vandenberg is still on my to dive list -- along with the diving the memorial reef graveyard at night on halloween next month