PADI Master Scuba Diver - what does it give you?

[aceupmysleeve777]

As a DM when I'm shown a Master Scuba Diver cert it gives me more confidence in the person I will be diving with. It doesn't make the diver, but by them having it I know that they have shown some dedication to con ed and trying to be a skilled diver.
On the flip side I usually have zero confidence in the divers telling everybody that taking this class or that class is stupid. Being welling to continue learning is always beneficial even if you only learn one little thing.
Just my 2 cents as a working DM who has to dive with both types of people.

 

[emoreira]

I have just got the Master Diver card from SSI. It´s a recognition level, meaning you have the specialties done and the number of dives/hours underwater. As any other recognition level card only says that you "should" have some level of experience.It´s like the century diver card (100 logged dives) or millennium diver card (1000 logged dives).As the new SSI standard next move for me will be Dive Guide. Dive Guide + Science of Diving = Dive Master. I do want to become a dive professional in the diving industry. This is what I need to carry people to do "Try scuba" or "Discover scuba".

 

[ScubaSteve]

I agree with most of your post but have met several card collectors that were more interested in the "bragging rights" of a new piece of plastic than the skills taught. Perhaps this sometimes falls on the instructor but I do not think that is the norm.

........but by them having it I know that they have shown some dedication to con ed and trying to be a skilled diver.........

 

[CamG]

Greetings Texasguy it is only my opinion of coarse but a Master Diver is really not much beyond AOW.
You have completed the 3 other dives to complete the 5 specialties but the end result is directly related to you and your instructors training.
If you are interested in training other divers then Dive Master program is a good choice.
If you are interested in being a better diver then I would recommended seeking more experience with a mentor that is very solid skill wise.
That being said more advanced training demands mastery of skills and comfort in the water.

Not knowing you personally makes it tough to see where you would fit best that is up to you.
Do not let the Agency issues bather you but determine what type of diver You want to be and how to achieve that goal.
Be purposeful and direct in your training to achieve your training goals.
THIS IS YOUR PATH NO ONE ELSE'S SO MAKE IT SO!

CamG Keep Diving....Keep Training....Keep Learning!

 

[chrpai]

As a DM when I'm shown a Master Scuba Diver cert it gives me more confidence in the person I will be diving with. It doesn't make the diver, but by them having it I know that they have shown some dedication to con ed and trying to be a skilled diver.
On the flip side I usually have zero confidence in the divers telling everybody that taking this class or that class is stupid. Being welling to continue learning is always beneficial even if you only learn one little thing.
Just my 2 cents as a working DM who has to dive with both types of people.

I think you are confusing training (not education) with experience. Diver one hasn't done anything to prove his abilities to you other then demonstrate that he collects c-cards. Dive two is being dismissed summarily on the incorrect assumption that because he eschews the 'PADI way' that he hasn't bothered to master those skills in other ways.

You just painted me as diver two but that's ok. I rarely dive with a 'pro'. Master Sergeants don't need 2nd Lieutenants.

 

[Pullmyfinger]

Master Scuba Diver Rating Courses - Advanced Open Water Diving - PADI Scuba Dive Training Organization

Master Scuba Diver, what does bring to a table? Any specific knowledge? Any standing in a dive community? What are pros and cons? Seems like a Dive Master is a better choice if one chooses to move past a rescue diver...

From reading this thread, it seems that PADI Instructors and Dive Masters will respect your perceived abilities if you are in possession of the Master Diver card.

I'll leave it to you to determine what that might be worth.

-Mitch

 

[jviehe]

I think you are confusing training (not education) with experience. Diver one hasn't done anything to prove his abilities to you other then demonstrate that he collects c-cards. Dive two is being dismissed summarily on the incorrect assumption that because he eschews the 'PADI way' that he hasn't bothered to master those skills in other ways.

You just painted me as diver two but that's ok. I rarely dive with a 'pro'. Master Sergeants don't need 2nd Lieutenants.

Not true at all. Diver one has proof that he has done 8 training courses including deep diving, navigation, rescue skills, and logged 50 dives. He has proven his abilities to an instructor.

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Greetings Texasguy it is only my opinion of coarse but a Master Diver is really not much beyond AOW.
You have completed the 3 other dives to complete the 5 specialties but the end result is directly related to you and your instructors training.
If you are interested in training other divers then Dive Master program is a good choice.
If you are interested in being a better diver then I would recommended seeking more experience with a mentor that is very solid skill wise.
That being said more advanced training demands mastery of skills and comfort in the water.

Not knowing you personally makes it tough to see where you would fit best that is up to you.
Do not let the Agency issues bather you but determine what type of diver You want to be and how to achieve that goal.
Be purposeful and direct in your training to achieve your training goals.
THIS IS YOUR PATH NO ONE ELSE'S SO MAKE IT SO!

CamG Keep Diving....Keep Training....Keep Learning!

Its actually a lot beyond AOW. 5 specialty courses, Rescue Diver, and 50 total logged dives. This is more training and experience than 99% of all divers.

 

[scubadiver888]

Master Scuba Diver Rating Courses - Advanced Open Water Diving - PADI Scuba Dive Training Organization

Master Scuba Diver, what does bring to a table? Any specific knowledge? Any standing in a dive community? What are pros and cons? Seems like a Dive Master is a better choice if one chooses to move past a rescue diver...

There are two scenarios. Scenario #1:

• You get your Open Water Diver
• You get your Advanced Open Water Diver
• You get your Rescue Diver
• You find 5 Specialty Diver ratings which interest you so you get them too.

Scenario #2:

Everything above but you pay $50 and someone gives you a card that says Master Scuba Diver.

Most people want to see an Enriched Air Nitrox card if you want Nitrox. Some boats will want the AOW rating if you are going to deep dives. Some people will be impressed by Rescue Diver. The rest of them are really for you (assuming you have a good instructor).

Save your money. Get the training you want. Skip the card which says you have a bunch of training.

 

[karlimmergut]

The same as "Master of Science", "Master of Engineering", and just about every other "Master" out there? Practically useless, in the sense that it is not required for any type of job I heard of and rarely is worth the time invested (in terms of financial gains), does not really prove anything, but it does motivate you to study in a focused manner for a period of time. I think it is good to have excuses to push oneself a bit harder, even if this means getting just a silly title...

 

[chrpai]

Not true at all. Diver one has proof that he has done 8 training courses including deep diving, navigation, rescue skills, and logged 50 dives. He has proven his abilities to an instructor.

You just unwittingly proved my pooint. 50 dives isn't squat for experience. I've seen plenty of horrible divers who proved something to some instructor somewhere.