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Moderation: Too much or too little?
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From another thread, but I'm getting the feeling that the mods are giving preference and protection to new divers who are also prolific posters (no judgement statement on the value of said threads started by these posters).
Generally, I think it's about right. In the last few weeks... it's a little heavy handed.
If that thread that you're referring to is in the "Green Zone" then yes.
The Basic Scuba and New Divers forums are going to be even more heavily moderated. This is an effort to keep these particular forums
a) On topic
b) Encouraging to beginners of both diving and ScubaBoard to post without being flamed or ridiculed.
c) Friendly
While all forums are meant to be friendly. The "Green Zone" is even more so.
And that's fine and well... but after 200 odd posts, if the conversation turns a corner, perhaps the wise moderation decision is to move the thread someplace else rather than censor the forward progress of the discussion?
No big deal, I guess... but moderators could do more to facilitate and less to stimy.
gcarter
Contributor
Hypothetical:
If someone was posting "provocative" posts to the green zone in an effort to avail of green zone protection, would the mods consider moving the OP rather than just modding in place?
Curious as to the discussion / decision process.
TIA
EDIT:
Don't you hate it when someone else posts esentially the same thing seconds before you? LOL.
If someone was posting "provocative" posts to the green zone in an effort to avail of green zone protection, would the mods consider moving the OP rather than just modding in place?
Curious as to the discussion / decision process.
TIA
EDIT:
Don't you hate it when someone else posts esentially the same thing seconds before you? LOL.
The Chairman
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It's not hypothetical, it has happened in the past and probably will in the future. However, not everyone is privy to what constitutes a controversial post. We don't always try to vet motivations as that is often hard to do. However, if we see a substantially controversial question, we just might move it to a more appropriate arena. If the poster has a history of posting overly controversial questions or hijacking threads to discuss their controversial views (POV Warrior), then might also remove the person's access to the Green Zones thereby eliminating the need to continually sequester their threads/posts.
Your rights end when they infringe on others. Any post, thread or user that detracts from the harmony here on ScubaBoard is destined to be moderated. The more they detract the more severe the moderation.
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When the OP accuses a moderator of attacking him ... which in this case, she was doing no such thing ... and tells her she should step down as a moderator ... wouldn't you consider that it's the OP who's violating the "Green Zone"?
In this case, I would ... because his post was not on topic, and was ... in fact ... an attack on that moderator.
Edit ... ah, I see a bunch of posts have been pulled from that thread, including this person's attack on the moderator. And I can see the point in protecting newer divers ... but a newer diver should not be able to abuse that special protection to make accusations and moan about imaginary slights every time someone disagrees with him ... particularly if he's in the habit of posting strong opinions. And SB staff shouldn't make a habit of enabling that sort of behavior. Scuba diving's very much about accepting responsibility for your decisions and actions, and that needs to extend to how people post here ... regardless of their experiential status.
Someone who posts strong opinions should be able to back up their statements or face an honest critique of what they've posted without either taking it personally or getting personal with those who disagree with him.
I can be really patient with newer divers ... and I try to be. But I am losing my margin for giving this particular poster the benefit of the doubt ... I'm starting to think this is some little game on his part to garner attention.
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
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Sometimes the moderation ship takes a while to turn onto a new course. Just because there isn't an instant response to something, doesn't necessarily mean there isn't going to be one.
Likewise, some of the things that seem like they happen over night have been the result of long ongoing discussions. There is an incorrect premise that the popcorn smiley was removed because it was causing an issue in it's use. While things may appear this way, the reality is that it was just a casualty. The issue actually stemmed from another smiley and an ongoing debate about how it was being (mis)used. I missed the actual decision to remove it, along with several others (including the popcorn) because I was busy with other things.
The point is, that even though it may seem that certain things are snap decisions from a user point of view, in most instance they're not. That's the same reason why certain things seem to take forever to be acted on. It just depends on what end of the decision process you happen to run across the issue at.
ferris213
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I couldn't agree with you more Bob. I really feel the repetitive nature of some of the 'poor me' posts on this board have begun to rival those in the deep air threads.
Although it may not be the typical style, I think the post calling for Lynnes' resignation should be considered as trolling. There seems to be a very clear agenda being pushed, with very little substance to back it up.
If the very nature of Scubaboard and its moderation changes because of one member, it will be a real shame.
I only wish I'd saved my post so I could have put it on my facebook page. Three likes and it disappeared. I have always said that I would train anyone actually seeking to improve. I do believe I have found one person I would never take on as a student. Simply out of self preservation. I am expecting to see sometime, somewhere, an article in a psych journal on "Control of Posters in Internet Forums Through the Use of Controversial Topics" . Where is a guinea pig smiley when you need one?
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