Gulf diving and the BP oil hemmorhage

[dmoore19]

The Ixtoc is still much worse than this one. The Ixtoc flowed for 9 months. 3,000,000 bbls estimated.

The relief wells are being drilled. The first one is 16250 feet now with an intercersect depth of 18000. The second well is 10,500. The first one is 11 days ahead of schedule. hopefully things will go well for the relief wells and we will see and end to the flow soon. If so, the Ixtoc will still be larger than this one.

Update on Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill | Press release | BP

 

[dmoore19]

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Nobody wants to talk about it, threads keep getting removed from multiple forums, not just here. It is a collective denial. People go off the political deep end and so many people, jobs, economy are threatened it just brings no good to talk about it some feel.

The thing is, the relief well, well, this is not going to be an easy thing, it could easily be well into fall or winter if anything goes wrong. What could go wrong you ask, well, take a guess.

This is potentially an environmental killer event and each day brings that potential reality closer. Once the oil moves into an area there will be no more diving, no more fishing, no more boating, no more fish, no more anything but death.

A lot of the visible oil can be cleaned up once the well is stopped. The oil that is in the sand, beyond the beach, in the marshes, with time, it too will be removed mostly by natural forces, the effects will linger for years, possibly decades. If this oil gets into the loop currents, well, that is not good for the keys, hopefully, the material will be sufficiently weathered that it does not kill the reefs, if, if, it gets that far.

N

This has to be one of the most well thought out posts I have read on this spill.

 

[Nemrod]

The Ixtoc is still much worse than this one. The Ixtoc flowed for 9 months. 3,000,000 bbls estimated.

The relief wells are being drilled. The first one is 16250 feet now with an intercersect depth of 18000. The second well is 10,500. The first one is 11 days ahead of schedule. Hopefully things will go well for the relief wells and we will see and end to the flow soon. If so, the Ixtoc will still be larger than this one.

Update on Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill | Press release | BP

The BP well is flowing at a much higher rate, the Ixtox well was effectively slowed by putting lead balls etc into the well.

I have been on rigs where we did directional drilling and the people who do this are very good but it is also very difficult. It is not a sure solution. If, if all goes well, some luck, come the end of August the 60,000 to probably closer to 100,000 bbls a day will be stopped and we can get on with the clean up and hopefully some lessons learned from it all so this does not happen again.

10X100,000 is how much? How long has the well been flowing? Do the math, Ixtox bigger or smaller, this is a huge event by any measure, we can leave it at that.

The fact is that they have all been essentially lying as to the amount of oil vented into the Gulf, the government is lying so it can make the administration look not so bad and they have a political agenda and BP is lying flat out from the get go, uh, "Day One" because it effects their bank account.

I only have to look at the maps, the reports and the oil spilling at a prodigious rate at 7,000 psi and a few rough calculations to know they are all full of something smelly. It is going to take more than "kick some a---" big talk and a few shop vacs from Sears to clean this mess up.

N

 

[dmoore19]

The BP well is flowing at a much higher rate, the Ixtox well was effectively slowed by putting lead balls etc into the well.

I have been on rigs where we did directional drilling and the people who do this are very good but it is also very difficult. It is not a sure solution. If, if all goes well, some luck, come the end of August the 60,000 to probably closer to 100,000 bbls a day will be stopped and we can get on with the clean up and hopefully some lessons learned from it all so this does not happen again.

10X100,000 is how much? How long has the well been flowing? Do the math, Ixtox bigger or smaller, this is a huge event by any measure, we can leave it at that.

The fact is that they have all been essentially lieing as to the amount of oil vented into the Gulf, the government is lieing so it can make the administration look not so bad and they have a politcal agenda and BP is lieing flat out from the get go, uh, "Day One" because it effects their bank account.

I only have to look at the maps, the reports and the oil spilling at a prodigious rate at 7,000 psi and a few rough calculations to know they are all full of something smelly. It is going to take more than "kick some a---" big talk and a few shop vacs from Sears to clean this mess up.

N

I am well aware of the difficulty involved in the directional work needed to intersect the old wellbore. I too have been on wells drilling directionally. I'm really curious how they will mill a hole in the casing to be able to pump the heavy mud in the flown out well.

I also had seen other estimates for the Ixtoc and saw some estimates pegging it at 90,000 bbls a day for nine months. Seems like BP and our government aren't any better at estimating flows than Pemex and the Mexican government. At least they are recovering some of the oil. Hopefully that is more efficient than they think it is.

 

[rk288]

Is staying west and south of the mess safe with hurricane season coming up? What about next spring?

 

[Nemrod]

Just to set the record strait, authorities and three networks stated last evening that the BP spill-ing in the Gulf of Mexico is the LARGEST oil spill in human history. N

 

[Garrobo]

Salt water always made mine feel bett...............Oh. I thought you said hemmoroids. Sorry.

 

[tomfcrist]

Why cant we set off a nuke on the seafloor and fuse the well shut? And i dont want to hear any crap about nuclear radiation or fallout because there wont be any. For heavans sake we are willing to explode nukes on the surface just to see what it will do to monkeys, why not put some of these nukes that we will never use in war to good use?

 

[marshallkarp]

I have been following this for a few weeks and this is very serious. A few things based on my readings from various sources:

The blow out preventer failed. More government would not have stopped this tragedy. It failed without legislation, it would have failed with legislation. It just failed.

The best chance to stop it was with the first top kill. There are very ominous reasons why it failed. Not good, not good.

I have been watching the BP ROV feed site almost everyday

Reality Check - BP Video Portal (Enhanced)

The only thing James Cameron could have done was to get HD cameras there. Period. The fact that he was ticked might have been his honest desire to help or publicity.

The next chance of stopping this the side wells and to try the top kill with them. Pray this works, but this is incredibly difficult, too.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int.../downloads_pdfs/ReliefWellDiagram06282010.pdf

From what I read, there is discussion about nuking it. The nuke is not the WWII city destroying kind, but the neutron ray kind. The neutron ray nuke is to kill all the people, but limit damage to structures and cities. The idea is the heat will melt the rock like glass near the source to seal the hole. This is very risky. The Russians, supposedly, have done this twice, but both times on land.

Finally, this is all from a 21 inch hole. That is the wellhead size, at least what I have read.