Some questions on SMB usage

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Referenimg a comment above where the op made a comment about the boat captain being able to ID the people from his group with some kind of marking on the top of the sausage. As for tying off. I thought the end if the double ender went on to the d ring end of the sausage and the other end to the loop end of the string? No?


I personally don't reccomend this.


Some folks don't use it for that because it can be viewed as a point of failure over what a "loop" through the SMB d-ring could be.


Some folks prefer looping through. (which I think is too much work/issue...)

mine has a snapbolt that is made onto the harness of my SMB. I've found that that connecting that to the loop on the end of my spool line works best.

after all my line has played out, I take the double ender and snap the line through it and then snap it to a hole on the spool.


some folks might then snap the other end to their D-ring, but this is dangerous because someone on the surface could then pull you up quickly. it could be some dumb boater pulling up what is on the end of the line or a boat that catches your SMB and tows you. either way, not good for you.
 
Just write your name or initials in large letters in indelible ink on your dsmb - that way the boat knows where everyone is, and that they are ok and on deco - mine also has coffee, black no sugar on it - that way the boat will know everyone is running according to their max run times.
It's worth knowing that in some areas, an orange 2m dsmb is normal - a yellow one, or 2 up the same line indicates a problem
 
Referenimg a comment above where the op made a comment about the boat captain being able to ID the people from his group with some kind of marking on the top of the sausage. As for tying off. I thought the end if the double ender went on to the d ring end of the sausage and the other end to the loop end of the string? No?

Usually not, to tie the line to the SMB you use the single sided clip of the sausage (or even safer, make a loop in the SMB D-ring), the double ended clip remain with you to lock the spool, or as some people like to do, clip in one of the spool holes to turn it and help wind back the line when ascending.
 
One curiosity, you wheight with BC empty in the botton? The ideal situation IMO would be to be neutral at 10 ~15 ft with BC empty (safety stop depth), so in the botton you will probably have some air either in your BC or in the drysuit (or both).
Interesting question and probably worth a discussion. I've started a thread here and would be interested in others' opinions.
 
With big bags -- lift bags, or the 6 foot SMBs -- you need to do something to manage buoyancy while you fill it. With the one meter bags, there's no need. Just going a little head down and finning slightly while you are filling it will keep you in place. When I learned to shoot a bag, I was doing a bunch of stuff with air in the BC and lungs and SMB, trying to stay at the same depth. It took longer and was more complicated, and rarely perfectly successful. Simply ducking a little head down and finning makes the whole sequence MUCH faster, and it requires fewer hands :)

I have certainly noticed that a 6 foot SMB is more difficult to handle. I tried to deploy it the other day and the beginning was not too bad, it was 'un macello' (= 'a slaughterhouse" = a mess) at the end where my feet got entangled on the line at the surface.

Boy! My regular buddy and I need to practice, practice, practice...
 
1. Is there a preference for which air source (primary, octo, mouth) to use for inflating the SMB?

I use my long hose. Exhaust gas works but sometimes can need 3-4 breathes which will screw buoyancy before its full enough. Just be careful if you use a reg in cold water not to freeflow it due to ice.

2. What is the typical depth from where divers shoot SMB's? Safety stop? From what depth should I practice doing it?

I send mine up from as deep as possible (so wherever the bottom is or 20-30m or whatever) - that gives the boat the longest possible time to locate me and i wouldnt have drifted as far from the wreck as i would have had i waited until shallower. It also has the effect of being easier to fill at depth in terms of being full at surface.

3. The video is great for pointing out the steps but how long should it really take a diver to shoot an SMB? If you find yourself in a semi emergency for instance. Let's say you have an OOA diver sharing your air and now you want to shoot a SMB before you surface. Surely you'd want to do it as quick as possible. How quick is that?

Dont rush it. A minute is fine.

4. If you're not wearing gloves I can imagine that running the reel between your fingers as in the video clip can hurt if it runs particularly fast. Any ideas?

A few idead. With SOME spools you can let it pull up a metre or so above you and it'll drop into your hands. Only work with no wind, no current and good visibility though. Other option is to clip the bolt snap to the line and let it run through that while you hold the bolt snap.

Or just use a reel instead of a spool - these are FAR easier!

5. Any tips on maintaining good buoyancy while inflating the SMB and before sending it to the surface?

Slightly negative and finning to start then gradually finning down prior to release. Get buddy if you have one to maintain depth so you have a reference and WORK SLOWLY. Also take care not to breath hold while concentrating on the task as this'll mess up the buoyancy. Try not to use your computer as you're chasing the numbers which isnt as smooth as a non moving visual reference.

6. Is there a good/efficient way to wind the line back on to the spool as you make your ascent? I bought a Mares compact reel (image below), thinking it would make it easier but it doesn't. It's not such a great design and now I'm thinking of removing the handle and everything so I'm left with only the reel. My question then is, how do you conveniently reel in the line again?

First thing, snap all the red weird plastic ****e off the spool - it serves no purpose. Then you use the bolt snap to wind the line onto the spool (clip line through bolt snap and use it to guide the line on).

Or use a proper reel not a spool - as above a good ratchet reel makes deployment and winding far far easier.

I really dislike the "random large chunk of line with no reel or spool" method you see at some tropical locations. Entanglement hazard waiting to happen, a boat prop snag waiting to happen and a great way to damage the reef too if its got a weight on the end. Spools and reels arent difficult.
 
Nice reflective stickers here to mark your SMB. Quick service, even allowing for postage from England.
 
Aha, thanks for bumping the thread. I just read through it all again. Since posting this I have practiced shooting a SMB a number of times and it's actually surprisingly difficult. In fact, I can count myself lucky that I still have a SMB as it has been jerked from my hand at least three times as it rockets to the surface. Fortunately I managed to recover it every time.

It seems to me that it is a bit easier actually shooting the SMB from a deeper depth as I can get away with using less air then, making the initial ascent less violent. But I'll just have to practice until I can really do it smoothly so that the "violence" of the initial ascent doesn't matter.

First thing, snap all the red weird plastic ****e off the spool - it serves no purpose.
Yeah, I realised that early on and removed all that plastic rubbish. It really was more a hindrance than anything else.

I practiced shooting the SMB in the sea last weekend and this weekend I'll practice again in a quarry.

I guess if your biggest concern is whether you can shoot a SMB properly or not, life is good. I'd much rather worry about that than worry about work related stress:D
 
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I use the SMB on most dives as in Sharm we do lots if drift diving

First I would recommend you to get a ratchet reel as you would use in a wreck and avoid those like your mares where you have a loose line

On to your questions

1 always use the alternate air source if you are sharing air you ask your buddy to go back to their primary (you should not start sharing when your buddy is at 0)

2 the reel should have at least 40 meters of line so that can be deployed at depth and also used for navigation. I tipically deploy it around 8 meters before the safety stop but because I don't want the line to get entangled and I like to have a good view of the surface. If you do a technical dive and use this as decompression marker you would deploy it at depth but not when you have current for the reasons above

3 when I deploy it I am slightly negative just to be sure in case it catches into anything

4 in your first attempts split duties with your buddy one inflates the other has the reel

5 once you have a proper reel rewindind is not a problem

The compact reels I like are AP Valves buddy compact reel and McMahon compact maybe they are not available in your area but look how they are built you can probably get something similar
 

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