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When one can become a dive "master" with a minimum of 60 dives, it is an enticing thought for many divers who are not really experienced enough to be considered professional. Of course that's just my opinion. With over 2,000 logged dives I know I'm not ready to be a dive "master" yet. Give me a few more years!
 
Marine biolagy should be a major part of divemaster requirments, Then the dm quality would be there. cause thats alot of learning, The dm would have more ample time to learn how to dive. My hats off to you Dr. bill.
 
I'll admit I have given working on DM at some point, mainly because they have set up the system where the next level of training after Rescue is DM.

One thing that impresses me about Naui's program is that there Master Diver program gives you away to get that instruction without the DM side for those of us that wish to continue our education but aren't ready for or don't feel we are ready for DM.

Heck, if I am going to be a DM/Instructor, I want to have enough experience and have dove enough of the world to be able to speak intellligently when new students come in and ask about different places. And have done enough different types of diving to be able to work in more conditions then just my local mud puddle.
 
When one can become a dive "master" with a minimum of 60 dives, it is an enticing thought for many divers who are not really experienced enough to be considered professional. Of course that's just my opinion. With over 2,000 logged dives I know I'm not ready to be a dive "master" yet. Give me a few more years!

Maybe after you get the drysuit thing down you'll finally be ready.:D
 
As a working DM it still surprises me that it only takes working with a few students to complete the internship part of the course. Before I got my card I helped certify over 40 students from jr ow thru rescue. I logged over 160 hours in the pool alone working with students. Not only working with them but working on my skills at the same time. It's how I learned to hold stops at 8,6, 4 and 2 feet for up to 10 minutes at a time with ease. Hovering inches above a problem student prone to panic when the instructor is demoing a skill in order to keep them from doing something stupid. How many of the DM's you see now can do this. I also took a break from it when it got too tedious and the stress of being responsible for other people every dive made it cease to be fun. It's when I really got into solo diving and then tech training to have some fun and relax and recharge. I'm now doing the crossover to YMCA AI followed by YMCA Instructor in May. I enjoy working with students again but not to the exclusion of diving just for me. That is one of the problems I see. DM's who only dive the same place, only with students, and rather than this improving their skills it may indeed have the opposite effect. How competent do they have to be to lead people who have no skills or only rudimentary ones? Many of them work with instructors who do the same dives and again while they may be good divers their own skills are often eclipsed by people they trained who have gone on to different areas whether it be tech, taking classes from a different shop/instructor/agency, or just finding a mentor or group of mentors.

In any case 20 dives is nowhere near enough to start DM. ESPECIALLY if all of those dives have been in the same conditions in the same place. WHat the 20 dives is about is money. Plain and simple. Get em taking ow, aow, rescue, and DM in as little time as possible and generate as much in the way of materials, fees, etc. It should also be a requirement that a DM have all of their own gear. I mean all of it. BC, reg, tanks, exposure suits, and back ups as well for as much of it as possible. If you have to rent your gear you are not ready to be a DM. WHile it's true that there are those for whom diving may seem second nature and may be able to start with 50 or so dives. But while doing this they should be helping out every chance they get. Once they get the cert it will pay off if they've helped with 10 or 20 students as opposed to a couple classes.

ANd dive skills need to be emphasized more. Face it anyone in relatively good shape can meet the requirements. But without requiring real experience it means nothing. And not in BS courses like fish ID, boat diver, project aware etc. A minimum number of dives in deep, night/low vis, current, navigation, search and recovery, and other courses specific to the environment most encountered need to be a part of it. Obviously if you don't have an ocean or river nearby perhaps current may not be possible but if you live up north then drysuit experience should be in there. ANd if you are going to move to a different climate then maybe some extra dives in the new place before you can assist or teach. I would not want to be watched on one of my Erie dives if the only place they've dove is in the caribbean and never dove dry. The same should go for instructors as well.
 
OP....you have posed a an interesting question and observation.....wish we had a good answer for it, but I scratch my head.

**Along that same thinking is..... Why do so many poorly skilled divers...want to risk being technical divers?
 
Not to be negative - but its because the average skill level in nearly anything lots of humans do is pretty poor. There is a vast army of people that want everything to be easy, hence they will never master anything difficult. Unfortunately its becoming less and less acceptable to call people on it.

"Oh, God, what if I'm average? Do you have any idea how dumb 'average' is?"

It really is terrible isn't it. I hear that 50% of the people are below average!
 
#1: because many people don't know what they don't know.

#2: because the system is wired to push this, and they need to do it before folks catch on to #1.
 
and guess what DM's become...........hmmmmm...maybe you now have the answer...........GEAUX TIGERS...............
 
Being a relatively new Dive Con, I can't say that my skills are the absolute best (navigation, I'll really have to work on), but I can say that since helping with OW classes it has definitely improved. For myself, the knowledge that I'm an example in front of the students has forced me improve. I try to look at it in the light that there's always room for improvement. I know the instructor I trained under & if there wasn't at least a little potential, he would not have passed me.

On another note about bad DM's, my Dive Con class had a candidate that had OK diving skills, but not the drive needed to do the course. He would copy the work book materials, until we caught on to what he was doing & put a stop to it. He then failed the first attempt at taking the written exam. At the end of our course we did a marathon day where those who didn't make it, could retake the written exam & then we all did our swim tests & classroom & water presentations. This individual was about an hour & a half late arriving (no call or anything- we had to call him) & this was explained at the beginning of the course that it was a big "no. no":no. After everyone else finished their retake of the exam, we all went into another room to allow this guy to concentrate. One of the others returned to get something & found that this individual had found the instructor's answer key & was cheating on his test:11:. Believe it or not,.... he still failed it again:shakehead:. When it came time for the swim tests, he couldn't finish 1/2 of the first lap & barely finished the other tests. He failed all his presentations by getting waaaaaay too technical:11:. Instead of just telling it like it is, he was trying to get into metaphysics & such & even that wasn't accurate. Obviously, he didn't make it & with the cheating, I don't know if he'll be allowed to retake the course, not my call. Here is someone who wants to be a diving leader, but can't even do his own work..... I just don't understand:shakehead:.
 

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