Why is becoming a DM considered not worth it?

[rongoodman]

I think the fact that I was surprised to see a DM with a good back kick on this last trip says something about the training you can anticipate.

 

[Isa.nerwen]

You do not need to become a technical diver by any means, just do an intro course at some point and thats it

Doesnt need to be tomorrow. Some people might argue the earlier the better, but it probably doesnt really matter when. Go diving, have a blast, and after a 100/200/300 or so dives try a tech course once you feel that you are comfortable in the water so you can challenge yourself with more skills

I think intro to tech might be interesting, definitely not further as I really need more experience to do that.
But going deeper is a thing that really interests me so in the future I might wery well try.

 

[TravisD]

My reasoning why my diving would improve while doing DMT is simply that I would get to dive a lot, amongst learning all the other things.

This is the main reason I went "pro". I saw it as a way to get to spend more time in the water, which to me is the best way to improve diving skills. In my case I was doing it with my LDS - so part of my reason for doing it was to help them out - I knew that it wasn't going to be a career change, and a quick glance at the course materials makes it clear that there's nothing really being taught that directly improves my diving. It did improve my situational awareness, and as a by-product it got me to take Rescue and First-aid, which are things everyone should have, but the DM/Divecon/AI path was a motivating factor for me.

If it meets your needs and you're confident that the risk vs reward is favorable to you, then go for it!

 

[ginti]

I think intro to tech might be interesting, definitely not further as I really need more experience to do that.
But going deeper is a thing that really interests me so in the future I might wery well try.

I am one of those who would argue that the earlier you do an introductory tech course, the better it is

Essentially, if you do it late you will have to unlearn your bad habits (everyone has them), and only after you can really learn new stuff. In my experience, the unlearning process is VERY painful (my personal experience). Most instructors agree with me - not all of them.

What's I don't understand is that in my experience so far (not a lot I admit, I have been with about 5 different dive shops so far) I've always found instructors that were really helpful, giving a tips etc - why would that change when doing DMT? Will they not still help you improve?

It probably won't. But one thing is to get tips and tricks, another one is a structured approach to learning new stuff. Are you looking for tips and tricks, or to learn new skills with some well-defined expectations?

 

[wlecyt40]

I say go for it. I did it even at the age of 60! That and Assistant Instructor. I did it because I have been an instructor much of my adult life and feel like I can give more to the field of diving and making it enjoyable for all those that are just getting into it. There is ZERO monetary reason for me as I volunteer with my LDS, but I love it as much as I love diving.

 

[rjack321]

At least in this country:
1) you pay for the DM course (and get your plastic card while learning nothing)
2) you pay for insurance
3) you assume a significant duty of care and liability for baby divers
4) you get paid in "free air" and "shop discounts" for spending YOUR time helping out someone else's business.

It's all bullsheet

 

[ColinT3]

BTW I also started a tech course but just could not get on with the twinset. I am small bodied and they were so cumbersome and I couldn't get the right attitude in the water (legs kept floating up), and it really hurt my neck. I would breath in and ascend then breath out and sink ha ha. My instructor was really good but it was just "not for me". The single tank works well in most environments unless shipwrecks or caves, or very deep. The theory however was great and I still enjoy reading the manual and digesting the information. Mostof the interesting stuff that I have seen is between 15 to 20 meters where you can stay for an hour and see loads and have a great time. Why go to 40 meters where you can spend 3 minutes???

Try sidemount if you don't get on with a twinset, much more comfortable.

 

[AeroSpartacus]

INHO: a cowboy outfit. Next time I went to Ao Nang he was gone !! Good job too. I never went on the last day of the course, and every time someone mentions "sidemount" that scenario comes flooding back . Maybe it is time for me to expel the demons and go with a "proper" dive outfit, but I am quite happy with a single tank for sports diving. The only lure for tech diving for me would be wrecks.

Yea, sidemount and boat diving don't go together super well. Most of my diving is in caves these days, so it works perfectly for that.

 

[wlecyt40]

At least in this country:
1) you pay for the DM course (and get your plastic card while learning nothing)
2) you pay for insurance
3) you assume a significant duty of care and liability for baby divers
4) you get paid in "free air" and "shop discounts" for spending YOUR time helping out someone else's business.

It's all bullsheet

I actually don't pay my insurance; the shop does. Assuming duty of care? I have done that my entire adult life, both in the Army and as a paramedic. yes, I get free air, free viz on my tanks and half price hydros plus I get to use the shop code for trips to save me some money. I also get the rewarding feeling of making "seasoned divers' out of "baby divers."

 

[rjack321]

I actually don't pay my insurance; the shop does. Assuming duty of care? I have done that my entire adult life, both in the Army and as a paramedic. yes, I get free air, free viz on my tanks and half price hydros plus I get to use the shop code for trips to save me some money. I also get the rewarding feeling of making "seasoned divers' out of "baby divers."

PADI has built their entire business model around folks like you, enjoy.