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[inquis]

Bungee works well

What's the utility of the long bungee tail over the typical position of the boltsnap? Is that in case the tuna clip won't fit the line?

 

[Wibble]

What's the utility of the long bungee tail over the typical position of the boltsnap? Is that in case the tuna clip won't fit the line?

Few reasons:

It clips in my pocket like a standard clip if I'm diving on a wreck with the scooter -- I can tie off the scooter with the strobe and ditch it whilst rummaging inside the wreck. Although the longline clip might work in my pocket, it's a lot easier to use a boltsnap and on a bungee.

If using the strobe on a deeper dive with a trapeze, the bungee will work around a thick downline as a prussic knot, or just wrap it round a few times and clip it back to itself. The longline clip will work on a thick rope only if you can get the rope into the longline clip's "jaw"; sometimes you can mash it through a twisted three strand rope line, but not a tight line.

Clipping the boltsnap to my chest D-ring and leaving the strobe to dangle works well for the descent (jump off the boat, descend) and grabbing it as I ascend. I also clip my tag on the bungee -- easy place to stash it for the descent.

 

[happy-diver]

 

[Dapper Dan]

"you don't teach me what is standard you PADI fart".

Anyone know a shop that offers that course? I'm a PADI "card collector" and I don't have the PADI fart card. Does that cert count towards the PADI Master Diver rating?


I had an experience a few years ago. I had gone down to the island to do a goof-around walk-in dive and a dive shop with about 10 students showed up for their class while I was under. I was coming out from my dive and was standing in waist deep water looking at the new strange crowd around me listening to some kind of pre-dive lecture when the instructor points at me and screams "HEY YOU! Take that friggin mask off your forehead. When you get certified then you can wear your mask on your forehead!" He obviously though I was one of his students.

I replied, "I was certified in 1990 and dive professionally. So I guess I'm good then" and walked out of the water.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Anyone know a shop that offers that course? I'm a PADI "card collector" and I don't have the PADI fart card. Does that cert count towards the PADI Master Diver rating?

It isn't a cert, but an alternate method for achieving propulsion for those who have difficulty with finning.

I had an experience a few years ago. I had gone down to the island to do a goof-around walk-in dive and a dive shop with about 10 students showed up for their class while I was under. I was coming out from my dive and was standing in waist deep water looking at the new strange crowd around me listening to some kind of pre-dive lecture when the instructor points at me and screams "HEY YOU! Take that friggin mask off your forehead. When you get certified then you can wear your mask on your forehead!" He obviously though I was one of his students.

I replied, "I was certified in 1990 and dive professionally. So I guess I'm good then" and walked out of the water.



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Not only that, but that guy wasn't certified to teach and was teaching children as young as 4. I know that particular student.

 

[bakodiver391]

PADI teaches you that mask on forehead is a sign of panic. Other agencies teach you to not panic.

 

[Thunder Struck]

PADI teaches you that mask on forehead is a sign of panic. Other agencies teach you to not panic.

Usually the panic sets in after they realized it fell of their head unnoticed when they had it perched there.

 

[boulderjohn]

PADI teaches you that mask on forehead is a sign of panic. Other agencies teach you to not panic.

Let's please put that to rest.

PADI teaches that equipment rejection is one sign of panic. That can especially include the regulator and the mask. A panicked diver may shove the mask off of the face, but in that case, the diver will also display other signs of panic. You are supposed to look at the entire situation to conclude that a diver is in panic. A diver casually climbing the boat ladder with the mask on the forehead is not in panic, and PADI does not say such a diver should be considered to be in a panic.

Unfortunately, some people do teach that, but that is the individual repeating something he or she heard somewhere else along the line. PADI as an agency does not teach that. IMO, it all stems from the unfortunate wording on the old final exam, in which mask on the forehead was the correct choice for signs of panic on a multiple choice question. Instructors preparing students for that exam probably stressed that in their final reviews.

 

[tarponchik]

Let's please put that to rest.

PADI teaches that equipment rejection is one sign of panic. That can especially include the regulator and the mask. A panicked diver may shove the mask off of the face, but in that case, the diver will also display other signs of panic. You are supposed to look at the entire situation to conclude that a diver is in panic. A diver casually climbing the boat ladder with the mask on the forehead is not in panic, and PADI does not say such a diver should be considered to be in a panic.

Unfortunately, some people do teach that, but that is the individual repeating something he or she heard somewhere else along the line. PADI as an agency does not teach that. IMO, it all stems from the unfortunate wording on the old final exam, in which mask on the forehead was the correct choice for signs of panic on a multiple choice question. Instructors preparing students for that exam probably stressed that in their final reviews.

A mask on forehead underwater is likely to be a sign of panic...

 

[boulderjohn]

A mask on forehead underwater is likely to be a sign of panic...

...and it will also be accompanied by other signs.