Yet another Giant Sea Bass killed

[Peter_C]

Well, if the fish don't survive being pulled up, is there any way to modify one's fishing technique to avoid catching these particular fish? It seems less than productive to allow the act of fishing, which kills the fish before the person holding the pole knows what they have, and then punish the person for having pulled up the wrong sort of fish.

Unfortunately many different types of fish eat the same types of food. For instance you may be fishing for ling cod, and pull up a rock fish, or vice versa. Of course I got caught once a scuba diver even, and they were fishing inside the marine reserve at Gerstle Cove.

You do not get punished for landing a fish out of season or one that is protected, you get punished for keeping one. So say you catch a rock fish out of season from 200 ft deep. You bring it to the surface and it's sack is popping out it's mouth and the eyes are popping out of it's head from being brought up too fast. You remove the hook and throw it back overboard. The fish can't swim back down and flounders at the surface as you re-bait your hook and cast again. You wouldn't have done anything wrong since you returned the fish to the ocean.

The commercial party boats devastate the coastline here. Imagine 15 rods around the boat with a constant catch being brought in.

"By Catch" is a horrible word in the fishing industry that is not often talked about. We all remember the dolphins and tuna right? How about shrimp fishing and all the life forms stripped from the bottom? Goes for just about every type of catch brought up in a net, let alone long line fishing (Think sharks).

 

[Hank49]

Well, if the fish don't survive being pulled up, is there any way to modify one's fishing technique to avoid catching these particular fish?

Yes. Spearfishing.

 

[drbill]

The commercial party boats devastate the coastline here. Imagine 15 rods around the boat with a constant catch being brought in.

Imagine nearly 100 rods on a single boat as can be seen on some of the party boats that fish Catalina's reefs. Often these anglers are targeting reef associated fish that stick on one reef much of their lives. Think of the impact of boats like this fishing for species like kelp bass which can only be targeted by recreational anglers rather than commercial.

 

[H2Ocean]

It's so odd that a state mandated regulated fishing license (w/federally protected certain species,) has absolutely no pre exam or training for fishing. The regs are puzzling, unless you "know" fish species, it's a gamble that some are going to catch and be thrilled with a trophy prize protected fish, without knowing it. Sure it's everyone's responsibility to "know" these things. It'd be like purchasing a drivers license and learning on the road the laws. Driving School, you have to pass before getting the license, if you can't tell what a school bus is, or a stop sign, they don't just let you figure it out later. It's a major state flaw,the state is blowing it big time by not having a course to pass before giving the fishing licence. The only thing I can figure out why it matters any at all in driving licenses is dead people can't pay taxes. Fish, as unique as black sea bass, great white sharks, accidently caught-illegal-doesn't really mean that much to Sacramento/DFG/or the people. A simple on-site monitor, a pass or fail exam, every year.

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the current DFG regulations now have examples of non puncture releasing deep water caught rock fish by weighted crate or weighted barbless hook tied a certain way, and dropped back down. It looks like a big pain in the but to do, although the regs say it works, who knows, maybe in just bringing fish food back to the bottom.

 

[drbill]

To correct information I previously posted in this thread. It was initially reported that the great white shark took a giant sea bass off Avalon, but it is now known it was a sea lion.

 

[IrishPaul]

To correct information I previously posted in this thread. It was initially reported that the great white shark took a giant sea bass off Avalon, but it is now known it was a sea lion.

Must have been one hell of a big sea lion....