Would you dive with someone who wouldn't share air if you were OOA?

[300bar]

Yes I would, just because those types usualy run out of air way before me,and than he/she would not get mine,just to teach him/her a lesson

I can now picture it,the diver gives me a OOA signal, and me goinig :no

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

When gue just started, aj Meyers worked at jarrods diveshop and was taking gue courses.

Ah ... that would be RJ Meyers working at Andrew Georgitsis' shop ...

His old man is rick, he runs a charter, bandito.

His son had his long hose wraped around his neck and he was explaining the gue configuration, on a charter with just the average divers.

As aj was explaining the long hose, rick grabbed his, pulled it tight, as aj was choking his old man says what are you going to do when this happens, and said just keep it simple and everything will be fine, then we went diving.

Um ... if you half understood how the hose gets routed you would know that what you just described is physically impossible. The hose doesn't route across your throat, it routes across your chest and behind your head. Pulling it tight from behind would only result in tensioning the hose diagonally from your right hip to your left shoulder ... there's physically no way it could possibly choke you.

Bandito charters is the safest charter you could be on.

It's one of many very well-run charter services in our area.

If father and son disagree about diving abilty's, and still get along in this world, then why do dive professionals have to act like baby.

I know them both very well ... and I don't see that they disagree about diving abilities ... or even necessarily the hogarthian vs standard configurations. They get along because they genuinely enjoy working together.

Almost all dive instructors are new divers,there opinions are mainly what they were taught not experience.

I don't find that to be true around here at all. While there are some new instructors here, I wouldn't call them a majority. Almost every shop I can think of in our area has instructors with years of experience, thousands of dives, and in many cases significant technical training.

Just don't get yourself in a OOA situation.

Easier to do when you know how to approach your dive plan ... which is why I go around giving free gas management seminars in our area.

I am pleased to see that with each one I give, more people tend to show up to listen ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Rick Murchison]

If another diver stated that "His air is his and if you run out, you're on your own", would you dive with that person?

Terry

I would not.
But it has nothing to do with sharing air.
I prefer to dive with someone who has at least a shred of human decency - or alone.
Rick

 

[VooDooGasMan]

I hear ya paridise,good one.

Yea bob, you got it straight on, rj and ag.
We dive close to gue,longhose config.

This was years ago'and like you say Rick and rj work together well.

I think Rick wrapped it himself and said it.

The example is back when gue first started Rick had his basic scuba ways,
Rj had tech, cave ways on a charter, for recreational diving.

Yes bob, there are inst that are seasond, but don't post, I'm reffering to everywhere, when saying almost all.

 

[300bar]

Ok I made some fun of the issue,but Rick gave a very good answer.
If you don't have the minimun of human decency,maybe you should not be diving,at least not with a buddy.
Still if I would met such a jerk I would still stay with my option and see how they would cope

 

[nannymouse]

My vote was miscounted.

I would not dive with someone who "explicitly refused to share air in an emergency".

I do not party with people who don't care for me or whom I don't care for.
My wifes brother died because someone was more worried about cops than providing an airway.

I am still working on the siamese twins of bouyancy control and breath control.
One dive buddy has 1200 when I am at 550. I just have to hold my breath for a while. -N

 

[MBH]

I'll put it this way; If I hired a professional underwater video/photographer dude and found him in the process of drowning my wife or one of my teammates because they were out of air and it was his "chosen" method of "saving them". I can assure you that I would make him regret ever being born.

 

[DiverBizz]

While practicing a skill for DM class, another student (ex dive buddy) didn't appear to want to do the required sharing of reg. I decided 2 things from that experience 1) never dive with him again 2) get a pony bottle ... stat!!!!!! Now I carry my buddy with me where ever I go on my dives.

 

[MagicChicken]

No, whether I'm careless or something unexpected happens, I would like my buddy to share breathing gas as a LAST RESORT.

I would do the same*. However, this would result in a post-dive inquiry to find out why said buddy ran out of air and I'd make sure he takes all necessary precautions so it won't happen again.

* only if my own air supply allows for a SAFE ascent. Under no circumstance I would endanger myself to rescue another diver. Something goes wrong and I'll be an extra burden for the rescuers. Moreover, if I need rescuing, I wouldn't be much help to my buddy, would I?

Some guys here made good points. I carefully follow the rule of thirds. A good buddy will never mind going back for the sake of safety. Anything happens underwater I should take care of it myself. What if I can't? That's why I would only dive with a buddy who would ultimately share some air.

Feel free to comment.


** we also follow Greg's Law: anyone who comes to the surface with less than 500psi pays a round to every diver on site.

 

[Thalassamania]

Since you're a new member I'll do my best to be gentle.

No, whether I'm careless or something unexpected happens, I would like my buddy to share breathing gas as a LAST RESORT.

Last resort should be an ESE, sharing air before things reach a crisis point can be very preferable to waiting till the fecal matter hits the air circulatory.

I would do the same*. However, this would result in a post-dive inquiry to find out why said buddy ran out of air and I'd make sure he takes all necessary precautions so it won't happen again.

Absolutely.

* only if my own air supply allows for a SAFE ascent. Under no circumstance I would endanger myself to rescue another diver. Something goes wrong and I'll be an extra burden for the rescuers. Moreover, if I need rescuing, I wouldn't be much help to my buddy, would I?

I would do anything within my power, including doing myself injury to save you despite your bad attitude.

Some guys here made good points. I carefully follow the rule of thirds. A good buddy will never mind going back for the sake of safety. Anything happens underwater I should take care of it myself. What if I can't? That's why I would only dive with a buddy who would ultimately share some air.

I don't get it, you'd only share air if you thought is was totally without risk (safe) yet you expect a buddy to share with you?

Feel free to comment.


** we also follow Greg's Law: anyone who comes to the surface with less than 500psi pays a round to every diver on site.

Surfacing with 500 lbs only means that you deprived yourself of potentially valuable decompression (safety stop) time. I'd rather blow off most the end of my tank at 10 to 15 feet under the boat.

Welcome to the board.