With no weights, what do you ditch?

[Wristshot]

for the response. I'm just trying to figure out if it is good advice or just an insult. ---*smiling*---

(not bragging nor looking for sympathy**) I am 5' 8" and I am down to 155 lbs, and working hard to lose another 5, but the 2-piece 7mm wetsuit on my size frame is very bouyant.

I need to remember the advice from DQ Aquamaster and stop moving feet an hands!

Wristshot


** If you are looking for Sympathy, it is in the dictionary between Sh*t and Syphilis

 

[Web Monkey]

Wristshot once bubbled...
for the response. I'm just trying to figure out if it is good advice or just an insult. ---*smiling*---

(not bragging nor looking for sympathy**) I am 5' 8" and I am down to 155 lbs, and working hard to lose another 5, but the 2-piece 7mm wetsuit on my size frame is very bouyant.

It certainly wasn't an insult.

I just foundit amusing that when I finally did what everybody had been telling me for the past few decades, it actually worked.

 

[dlegros]

Wristshot once bubbled...
I am just thinking that a sausage could provide the small amount of bouyancy necesary to get moving.

Wristshot

Having seen my buddy start to take off like a Polaris when her reel jammed - a DSMB certainly generates ample lift!

I haven't tackled like that in years

Dom

 

[Atticus]

SMB's can certainly generate the lift! I let go of one on a recent trip when it became apparent that I wasn't going to fix my reel in time (stupid user error).

I'm sorry to hear your buddy imitated a Polaris - sounds scary!

- Atticus

 

[dlegros]

She only made it about a metre up before I realised what was going on and let go of my kelp anchor (nasty current!) and grabbed her legs!

Dom

 

[pdoege]

I am neutral with empty tanks, and can swim my rig up with a wetsuit.

That being said, I'd happily dump my light, knife, and shears if I needed to.

That is around 4 lbs, IIRC

Peter

 

[liormic]

Everything that has been said so far is true and very important.
I must say that using a sausage, as funny as it might heared, requires practice and a safe relise of it to the surface reqires the physical help (by grabbing you) of your buddy.
That's how we do it on a tak dive.

My belive is that if you want to go on the safe side you should pay some money and purchase a second bludder for your BC so if one fails, you have the other.
The most expensive advice, yet, the safest.

Mickey.

 

[Atticus]

liormic once bubbled...
Everything that has been said so far is true and very important.
I must say that using a sausage, as funny as it might heared, requires practice and a safe relise of it to the surface reqires the physical help (by grabbing you) of your buddy.
That's how we do it on a tak dive.

My belive is that if you want to go on the safe side you should pay some money and purchase a second bludder for your BC so if one fails, you have the other.
The most expensive advice, yet, the safest.

Mickey.

I had to read that twice to understand what you were trying to say. I also do tech diving, and I have never had anyone hold on to me while deploying either a lift bag or SMB/sausage. I have twice let go of the reel, bag, etc. when the reel fouled, and had to go to my backup reel/bag.

If you are having someone hold on to you then I would guess that you are trying to mitigate a situation where the line gets fouled on your person. My suggestion would be to hold everything at arms length, and to not allow extra line to spool out. Some people inflate by exhaling through the reg in their mouth, which brings everything in closer. I've been taught to hold everything out and use my long hose to inflate as one more step to minimize the risk of fouling.

A second bladder is worth discussing as it may indeed save you from a primary bladder failure. I have chosen to use a single bladder as I am more concerned with the extra failure points introduced into the system by the second bladder / inflater / hose / etc than I am about a bladder failure.

I am already carrying two bags (one bag and one SMB actually) for redundancy, so I feel that a failed bladder can be managed safely.

On the other hand, if I were to add a second bladder I would double my chances for a runaway inflater valve, etc.

Some of my friends do dive with double bladders. About half of them have disconnected one of the bladders and just put a cap over the opening on the BC. The ones that haven't have done well too, and haven't experienced any problems with them (yet?).

Best Regards,
- Atticus

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[liormic]

Without getting into tek technics wich differs between different organizations and are not the subject of this thread, yes that's the way we do it and of course, if there's a problem I will let go of the reel. It had never happened to me yet.
As to the second bludder wich can produce more problems with the inflator, well, it's just a backup and you don't have to attach an inflator hose to it and in case of need, just oral inflate it so it will never be able to cause any problem.

 

[Atticus]

liormic once bubbled...
... you don't have to attach an inflator hose to it and in case of need, just oral inflate it so it will never be able to cause any problem.

Good point. That seems like a safe way to carry the extra bladder / get the redundancy / not have a run-away inflater risk.

Cheers,
Atticus