calicant
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Why would anyone want to walk on fire? It's just a glowing pile of coals spread along a path and lots of people have done it before.
Why dive wrecks like Andrea Doria
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Why would anyone want to walk on fire? It's just a glowing pile of coals spread along a path and lots of people have done it before.
Life is all about choices, risks, and differences in behavior. If everyone was the same in their paths, what fun would that be? As far as government intervention, do you really think we need more of that nonsense? If you were to compile a chart of actual dives made, ( rec, tech, and whatever) vs deaths, I believe you would find that sport fishing or riding a bus is more of a threat. The day that I am not allowed to make my own diving choices is the day I'll sell my gear. Do I feel sorry for the families of the ones that have died? Yes I do. However death pursuing a dream or adventure happens and I think that is their choice and we all should be allowed to make our own choices. Am I afraid to die? NO, do I want to rush it? NO, that is why I get training and education in my activities.
AfterDark
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I don't know much about the Dora... not had chance to read the book yet, as I've not seen it for sale here in Manila (Ebook anyone?).
... but if I was in the area, I'd be on it like the wreck ferret I am
I don't know Devon it ain't Subic Bay
Here's and a little something from my friends report of the Doria:.... my deepest dive to date. After 20 minutes on the Hull my max depth was 213 ft for 74 minutes in 44 degree water with 25' viz
.cool dive and a dream come true. We arrived at 5pm and 1 dive was all there was time for. Wreck ferret in a dry suit! That's some cold, fast and dark water there. I blew my one and only chance to dive her years ago. They wouldn't even let me on the boat now!
DevonDiver
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I don't know Devon it ain't Subic Bay
Yeah...I heard the viz was better there!
In all seriousness... I can understand the draw to diving wrecks like that. It'd deserve some work-up dives though - especially as my drysuit has been in the attic for 4 years.
....What??? 44degree water?? are you nuts?? that's a suicide,,don't you know that if you submerge your body in a very cold water your lungs might collapse?,,if you had the chance to explore Doria, you'll notice that the holes inside the ship are tight and difficult to maneuver especially if you are wearing two 02 tanks. i think divers never learn, they still explore the Doria even if it endagers their lives.....stubborn!!
I don't know much about the Dora... not had chance to read the book yet, as I've not seen it for sale here in Manila (Ebook anyone?).
... but if I was in the area, I'd be on it like the wreck ferret I am
I've been all over the Philippine's best diving sites, i've been to Apo island Dumaguete,Tubataha reef national marine park in Sulu Sea, Puerto Galera(always), Anilao(every beginner diver's fav), Moalboal Cebu and Corona Bay Palawan..name it!!
What are you trying to say?
All the places named do not offer wreck diving except Coron.
There are a lot of good wrecks in Philippines:
Princess of the Orient, MV. Coral island, Princess of Boholyna, MV. Mactan Ferry, MV. Dona Marilyn just to name a few.
And if you are good enough then there are USS Cooper, USS Flier, USS Ward and at least 5 IJN destroyers in Ormoc Bay. I won't even mention IJN Fuso and Yamashiro.
PfcAJ
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I am SO not a wreck person . . . but in 2009, in the Red Sea, I dove the Thistlegorm. We had a superb dive briefing, and I knew what we were going to see. At one point, I was swimming along and saw something kind of odd: two circles, with a line above them. Neither circles nor lines occur in nature, so I knew I was looking at something from the wreck, and suddenly, I realized what it was -- a tank, lying on its roof, just as we had been briefed. Suddenly, I was back in time, on the night the ship sank. I could see the dark sky and hear the explosions as the bombs hit, and people crying out, and see the flames as the holes blew in the center portion of the ship. I got goosebumps, as I realized what I was looking at was the "end of the story". You can read about the bombing, or the accident that sank the Doria -- but until you have been to the ship's graveyard in the sea, you haven't really seen the end of the story.
I would not dive the Doria -- that dive is too much work and risk for me. But in that one incandescent moment on the Thistlegorm, I at least knew WHY people dive wrecks like that.
I would not dive the Doria -- that dive is too much work and risk for me. But in that one incandescent moment on the Thistlegorm, I at least knew WHY people dive wrecks like that.
beester
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That's really it Lynne. It's like finding traces of human life in a cave dive... be it broken ceramic pots, remains of campfires, cave-drawings... If you are even only somewhat interested in human history you get draw in like a moth to a flame. Diving on the North Sea, near dunkurque on the HMS Havant, knowing she took part in those horrible days in 1940 during the evacuation of the BEF (HMS Havant (H32) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)... you get a real sense of the inpending doom when she was bombed by stukas. Or diving the 3 cruisers (Action of 22 September 1914 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)... if you are interested in this kind of stuff it's really mesmerizing.
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