Why are Mods anonymous and wont answer questions?

[Brodydog]

Seems very narcissistic for someone to think someone else is following them around in the forums. Just because someone is in the same forum as you reading and commenting on the same posts does not mean they are following you.

 

[chillyinCanada]

I'm old, but I was born in Barranquilla Colombia (South America) and simply hate Faux News. My mother and oldest sister were born in China to boot. I already enjoy dual citizenship and am eligible for a third. I've been told by a few that I hate Trump, though I prefer not to hate anyone. I doubt that I'll fit in many, if any, of your pigeon holes.


I would agree with this statement. Alas, my cover is blown.


Indeed. No one is out to get you, not even the mods. They moderate not only to rid the forums of unneeded rancor, but to prevent the same.

Except for Chilly. She's out to get everyone. J/K, but she's pretty leftist and from Canuckistan at that. She's hardly your idea of a "Merican". She's riding herd on that thread so keep it tight.

Correction: I am *one* of the moderators riding herd on that thread.

 

[chillyinCanada]

I have not been attacked but I have 'gone off on you'? wow.

Saying I went off on someone in the deleted post is a lie. Meanwhile, winnie the pooh jokes about a young guy who died hours before the jokes was made, was no issue.
I guess you're enjoying this.

If you actually read the whole thread in its entirety, you will find that it wasn't a "joke". That it is a common analogy used during training when referencing getting into a restriction.

During your reading within the thread, you should note that a number of members chastised the member who used the analogy and you should also have learned that The Chairman chastised the member IRL (personally, in real life, not only on Scubaboard).

But the long and the short of these things is that moderators need to be made aware of these types of issues by using the Reporting function. Hopefully, there will be a moderator on duty to catch these things early enough.

Also, it must be noted that reporting something doesn't always mean that the moderators will agree with the member who has made the report. Sometimes we don't see the supposed offense in the same light.

Regardless, we want members to use the Report function rather than fight on in a thread.

When it comes to A&I threads, our tolerance level is very low, as a rule.

There may have been some leeway earlier in the thread but once there's been a Mod Post made and most certainly with two Mod Posts in place within the thread, members should know that there's no more leeway. No more quarter will be given. There will be no more "mod edits" to remove offending, disruptive, off topic or argumentative language, thereby leaving to stand the "cleaned and edited" portions of the members' posts.

Especially when it comes to A&I, it behooves each and every member to read all of the Special Rules and the stickies before making any post under an accident thread. We can all benefit from thinking twice before posting once.

Further, complaining and/or disagreeing with the process, timing and accident discussion within Scubaboard's A&I, is always Off Topic.

Moderators do try to be more sensitive to those closer to the deceased. We are not the least bit sensitive to members who are many many times removed/unrelated in any sense, other than being divers themselves.

And it should also be pointed out to @berndo and others, that while you may be aware that your own post(s) was deleted, you cannot really tell that posts by some other members, have also been deleted. Perhaps you may find some small comfort in that.

 

[rddvet]

I'm pretty sure you're really not that dense and just trying to wind me up. At the same time... I reckon most of you are older Merican that actually like fox news. Last time I mentioned it, I also got thread banned, straight away... which was odd. Did I hit a sore spot?
Can I get back into your and Wookie and the mod crews good graces if I act like I think Trump is a genius business man who's got the best words? I know that could soften up wookie some if I'll **** talk all these lazy millinals some. How about that, huh? Sound good?

This is exactly why people ignore you or are bothered by you. You have good points often. The way you present them is the problem. Jumping to derogatory political statements is dumb. You don’t know any of our leanings. I’m in Florida so you therefore would label me a trumpster. But you actually have no f’ing clue where my political thoughts are.
How about I use your logic on you. You’re in Germany. You must be a nazi.

Yep, that’s a horrible thing to say. Just like your labeling of us ‘Mericans

 

[OTF]

There will be no more "mod edits" to remove offending, disruptive, off topic or argumentative language, thereby leaving to stand the "cleaned and edited" portions of the members' posts.

I have no dog in this particular thread. But I have moderated other large forums before, and was meaning to ask about this issue. The tendency of some mods on this board to stealthily edit people's posts has always rubbed me the wrong way. Sure delete a rule-breaking post and notify the user, fine. Give them a strike and warn of impending ban, great. Even leaving a post up but removing a nasty sentence, and notifying the user their message has been altered could be okay. But changing the actual content of what somebody says behind their back (even if objectionable) is nasty, slimy, and raises all sorts of problems. Trust, integrity, free speech, and potential for abuse first of all (although some of the more facistic moderaters I've known might argue that those don't exist on their forums) and secondarily the offender never even knows they posted something objectionable if it's edited without notification. If you stand by doing stealth edits, why? What is the moderation guideline here on this? What was the thinking on that policy?

 

[Wookie]

I have no dog in this particular thread. But I have moderated other large forums before, and was meaning to ask about this issue. The tendency of some mods on this board to stealthily edit people's posts has always rubbed me the wrong way. Sure delete a rule-breaking post and notify the user, fine. Give them a strike and warn of impending ban, great. Even leaving a post up but removing a nasty sentence, and notifying the user their message has been altered could be okay. But changing the actual content of what somebody says behind their back (even if objectionable) is nasty, slimy, and raises all sorts of problems. What is the moderation guideline here on this? If you stand by doing stealth edits, why?

Mod rules are that edits are not allowed by the moderators.

If someone is doing that there needs to be a report filed.

Posts are supposed to live or die in their entirety UNLESS the poster desires an edit and the time for editing has passed.

 

[rmssetc]

The tendency of some mods on this board to stealthily edit people's posts has always rubbed me the wrong way.

I Am Not A Lawyer (use the acronym ss needed), but that kind of editorial moderation may be used to classify SB as a content creator, not just a provider subject to the "Good Samaritan " protection of the CDMA. See the thread on critics of a liveaboard being sued for libel as an example of why this is a risk for SB.

Of course, IANAL.

 

[Wookie]

I Am Not A Lawyer (use the acronym ss needed), but that kind of editorial moderation may be used to classify SB as a content creator, not just a provider subject to the "Good Samaritan " protection of the CDMA. See the thread on critics of a liveaboard being sued for libel as an example of why this is a risk for SB.

Of course, IANAL.

This is not a risk for scubaboard.

Mod rules prohibit stealth editing. For exactly the reasons you state.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

A deeply religious mod hard deleted it. It's why we don't let them do that anymore.

DiverNet just got re-established I think... I'm not sure it's a forum anymore, but it might pre-date us. It hasn't been continuous though. We are the lone survivor at this point.

Indeed.

diver.net is still around and it’s older than SB, (late 90’s I think). It’s a Southern CA based board.

 

[OTF]

Mod rules are that edits are not allowed by the moderators.

If someone is doing that there needs to be a report filed.

Posts are supposed to live or die in their entirety UNLESS the poster desires an edit and the time for editing has passed.

Oh well that makes me feel a lot better. Good! In that case disregard my misplaced bickering entirely, you guys are awesome and do a phenomenal job here. I recall having a post or two edited a while back, perhaps by someone bending the rules, and thought it was a continuing accepted practice.