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Jim, thank you so much for the excellent post.

My husband and I just became certified divers last month, and it is very refreshing to hear someone talk about who is really responsible. I remember the night before my first OW dives, for good or bad, recalling the skills that I was a little concerned with, and going over and over in my head how to do those skills, going over and over some of the worst case scenarios I could imagine and how I would/could/might handle them. I felt foolish for such concern but I could not get it out of my head that I was going into totally alien environment. I also felt that the pool time that we had was not as much as I would have liked. We did ask our OW trainer to spend time with us in the pool before our first OW dives. She was fantastic and spent what must have been at least 1 1/2 hours in the pool with us making sure we were very comfortable. She also went through what was new equipment for us as we were doing our OW dives with a different DO than we trained with in the classroom and pool. And even though I did better on the OW dives than I expected to, I had no problems with the skills, and I was able to handle the few issues that did arise, I still feel that I know so little. In fact I cannot believe that a few hours in a pool and 4 OW dives makes me certified!

On the other hand I would not have gone through with any of the training if I did not want to challenge myself a little bit. I struggle with how to gain more skills then and how to become more proficient at the ones that I have some grasp of. Granted class training is imperative, but how to gain experience on slightly more challenging dives without doing them after a class setting? Am I best off doing training and doing dives with the same DO so they know my skill set? Does anyone have suggestions for a "path" to becoming a more proficient diver? I find courses that I can take for learning more advanced diving skills, but shouldn't I have more basic diving experience before taking additional courses? Can I request my "own" DM for a dive in conditions that I have not dived in before?

Is there a one-on-one mentoring program for new divers where we could work with more experienced divers to talk through concerns, skills, etc.? I found it really valuable to do our OW training with someone other than our class and pool trainer because both trainers had their own specific experiences, advice and things that they emphasized in training. It seems that the more experts that I can learn from (such as here!), the better of a diver I will be.

I used to have dreams when I was a child that I could breath underwater and I would swim with whales and dolphins. That is actually one of the reasons that I wanted to become a certified diver in the first place. If only reality were that easy!
 
Congratulations to you and your husband!
Sounds like you had good instructors, and that is very important. I wish all the people that are thinking about "the quick courses" that are offered by some dive shops these days, read your post.
Join a dive club in your area, tell them that you are a new diver and want to get more dives and learn more skills. Or go diving with the divers from the dive op you took the course with. I am pretty sure they will be more then happy to go diving with you. You don't have to necessary get more certifications right away (well that's my opinion), for me education is important not the certifications. I know many excellent divers that are "only" open water certified, but are much better divers then some certified instructors. Go diving as much as you can, just make sure the diver / guide you are going with is a good, responsible and safe diver.
 
good for you! .. DRsharky has good ideas :)
I'll add that when you think you want to take another class, look up that same instructor that was willing to spend whatever time needed to make you comfortable, and safe
... you will also know they were a good one by the comments/compliments you will receve from other divers about how nicly you dive & not knowing you had so few dives :D
 
I appreciate this article. I got my certification card in Mexico this January and found the dives there very easy. When I got home, I still felt really insecure thought, I still don't know how to navigate or really plan a dive. I hired a guide to take me on a shallow dive in Monterey which did not go as well as the Mexico dives. (Super Bad cramp, needed to surface during dive.) I really want to become a better diver, but I am uneasy with the idea of being someone's "buddy" at this point... I don't feel qualified. But I don't want to stay out of the water either. I'm unclear how best to get this training... do you just keep hiring guides until your skills improve? I see so many interesting looking groups on this forum who dive in my area but would not as yet be ready to dive with them... I'd feel like I was potentially holding them back as I am still taking my time with everything. Anyway... will continue to peruse these forums for more info on how to best improve my skills and confidence and feel better about joining some of my local diving groups...

Hi Well dont get to worried, providing you done all the required skills . When you first start out team up with some one like a rescue diver and do a few dives to get your self used to diving. Some people 4 dives is not enough. Again one thing that makes one uncomfortable is being over weighted. Or bad conditions. join a club .

Any other problems . just reply
 
Sorry no slight intended but.. Certificates and courses aren't as important as what the diver displays in the water. I know OW divers I would trust my life to! I have refused to be buddied with divers with a raft of cards including DM and Rescue Diver! Find someone you are comfortable with ... if you aren't sure ... watch them in the water.... ask other people who the good divers are and finally make your own decision!

We all do "trust me dives" in the beginning.. be selective who you trust!

Watch other divers.. figure out from watching them.. who you would like to emulate and remember copying someone is the highest form of compliment.

IMHO the single most important skill a new diver must learn to keep themselves safe is the ability to say NO!

No! I am not going to do that dive. No! I am not going to buddy with that person. No I am not comfortable with that dive plan. No! I am not ready to do XXX yet!

Anyone who does not live by the rule "Any diver can call any dive at any time with no recrimination or pressure" is someone not worth diving with!
 
It is hard to know who to trust when you don't know anybody, so the idea of diving with the instructor that spent extra time with you is great (thanks D_B :)
Also most new divers are shy and thinking that they don't want to bother the "experienced" divers. But even those were beginners at one point, don't forget that!
 
I love diving with new divers IF they are honest with me about their experience and training. I also expect them to want to continue to improve their skills and knowledge. I have little tolerance for those who are ok with just being able to jump off a boat and breathe underwater while having their hands held and being led around by the nose.
 
Ok yes agree . i have taken out rescue divers and wondered How on earth did they get that far. Who can you trust. Well it boils down to your self. Honestly . I learnt that way. I went to a few clubs and to the pool to see how they worked. honestly , there are some selfish divers out there. True! A couple of clubs that are know more In the UK I said NO! to and they took my money £60. club fee, I only went once. I had a right go at them for their stupid practice. made a quote that sadly came true. They are NO MORE!
Get with a caring diver who had done 300 dives or more. One that dives all the time. If he cares and love diving. Like me . He will appreciate your concerns and take you out and may be even brush your skills up. If I could be a thousand Me"s I would . That goes for many things over here in Sabah. Its a real shame with have to have these blogs to discus such matters. I have to be tactful on here. But I could tell you some stories about how hard it was to get where I am now. And still the the ladder has rusty parts. To many are just in it for the money and them selves.
Hope that clears things up.
 

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