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Which Halcyon SMB for GUE Fundamentals?

Discussion in 'Lift Bags, SMBs and Reels' started by Skulmoski, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Skulmoski

    Skulmoski Barracuda

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    Hi

    I am looking to retire my SMB with one that would be appropriate for GUE Fundamentals. I am interested in one of the Halcyon 3' SMBs if that makes sense.

    Below are the related skills, standards and course specific equipment related to SMBs.

    Required Skill:
    Demonstrate proficiency in lift bag/surface marker buoy deployment while using a spool.

    Standards - Appendix A
    The GUE base equipment configuration is comprised of:
    - At least one surface marker buoy (SMB) with spool per diver.

    Additional Course Specific Equipment
    - Surface marker buoy: where required, the SMB should be appropriate for environmental conditions and deployed using a spool with at least 100 feet/30 meters of line.

    Many thanks in advance.

    GJS
     
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  2. AJ

    AJ Solo Diver

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    Any SMB will do if you can orally inflate it by a tube. Don't buy a very large SMB. A normal sized one is good enough.
     
  3. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    Use what you will actually dive with, not what's easiest to pass with - that defeats the point of that part of the class. I carry and used the 6' smb by halcyon during tec. It's large enough to be seen on the surface and easy to fill and deploy at depth. I stopped using the 1m smb after a charter boat dive where we had to search for missing divers in the ocean. We couldn't see them a 100 yards from the boat.
     
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  4. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    Ps: any well made brand works.
     
  5. gchilcott

    gchilcott Angel Fish

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    My GUE-F instructor was agnostic on equipment brands generally, but he did think the Halcyon SMB was the best. You need to be able to inflate it orally, though I think the version with the LP quick-connect fitting can also be inflated orally. The SMB should have an overpressure valve. Another tip is to get a delrin spool, or at least one that is roughly neutrally buoyant; a metal spool sinks quickly if you drop it. Make sure your double bolt snap will pass through the metal ring.
     
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  6. decompression

    decompression Instructor...seriously...

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    Last edited: Feb 7, 2016
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  7. Lorenzoid

    Lorenzoid idling in neutral buoyancy ScubaBoard Supporter

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    This is/was my thinking. I used the 6' DAN SMB for Fundies, because that's the SMB I use in my regular diving.

    I'm sure an SMB with a blue H on it is wonderful, but there are many fine SMBs out there.
     
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  8. rivers

    rivers PADI Pro

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    I used my 4.5ft halcyon. and inflated it with my drysuit hose. from 5-6m, it's not going to be full, but the instructors are aware of that.
     
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  9. C Dub

    C Dub DIR Practitioner

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  10. Oldbear

    Oldbear Teaching Neutral Diving

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    GJS,

    When I took the Fundies course I bought the Halcyon 3.3' Closed Circuit SMB because that what was recommended by my instructor. For me that recommendation has been so valuable. In the last two years I have carried it on about 600 dives and deployed it on about 200 of those. For type of diving I do in the type of water conditions I dive in it is perfect. I keep it pre-tied to a 150' finger spool where I attach it to my BCD or in a pocket.

    While Halcyon might be expensive for my the extra cost is well worth the value and longevity I have received. But like others have said match you equipment to your dive conditions. I really don't need nor want a large smb with me while diving. I use my smb to provide me with an ascent line (with knots on the line every ten feet so I know my depth if I am in a no mask situation). If you dive in rough seas maybe a larger smb is warranted like Jack Hammer suggests.

    Good luck with you course and have fun with it.

    ~Oldbear~
     
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