Where would you go for a 3 month stay?

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A buddy of mine did a little shore diving off one of the Hawaiian islands, and has tried to persuade me to go. Hasn't succeeded yet. When I looked into it, some impressions I got from him & others:

1.) Expensive.
2.) Topside beautiful; impressive hardened old magma flows, jungle, coastal views, big sea turtles basking on the beach you can get fairly close to.
3.) Parts of it have shore diving!
4.) People speak of a night dive with mantas very highly.
5.) There are a number of endemic species.
6.) The 'reef' doesn't look like a lot of what we're used to in the Caribbean. I believe it's described in other threads. But it's not going to look like Cozumel.
7.) Water's cooler than what I'm used to in the Caribbean. Not bitterly cold, but be aware.

If I were going to spend 3 months living & diving in Hawaii, my 1st question would be 'What's the bill?' If you can get past whatever figure that yields, it could be a sweet 3 months.

Richard.
 
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Consider planting yourself somewhere in the Visayas in the Philippines? And do a visa run in the middle to Bali.
 
I meant interesting for a Caribbean island! A lot of them are just flat sandy and have some palm trees.

Bonaire? Have a look at Tobago and check back in.
 
Wow - definitely great ideas! Curious to learn more. Budget is $100 for two tanks per person. We also would like to keep lodging at 1k per month but can get a more simple place if needed. Caymans are probably out for this long of a stay right?

Hawaii, PR were on our original list but wasn't aware of shore diving opportunities there....will research but pls advise of specific islands / towns if you can...got married on the big island so good to see it is on the list!

Bonair was something on top of our list (condos for 1k, same with a truck) - topside activities enough? Same with Utila?

Bali sounds amazing....will definitely look into it some more! Any thoughts on what part of Bali to consider? Downsides?

Glad to see Philippines on the list! Been to Anilao and Apo Island....actually plan to move somewhere there long term (I was actually born there and will meed to be close to mom at some point). Toying with going there for 3 months or go elsewhere first...what part would you recommend? Any thoughts about Coron?

All others recommended weren't on our radar so definitely will check it out! Thank you!


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Hawaii is pricey if you're traveling as a "tourist" staying in a hotel with swim up bar in the typical tourist area. If you're OK with staying in more modest digs (check VRBO, AirBNB, etc) it's not as astronomical. But it still ain't cheap... certainly not in the $1000/mo for lodging range. Plus everything else is expensive. Add in need to rent a car, as well.
 
Reality check...:rofl3:

$1000 will get you a nice week on Cayman - maybe...lol And I'm not talking in a vacation rental. House there regularly rent in the upper thousands per month. And many of the condo complexes are weekly - if they can fill them now why give them to you cheaper?

Plus food is absurdly high, gas isn't cheap - about the only thing on your list is that dives do run about 2/$100 on a package. There are some shore dives there - at most you rent from the on-site operator. CI$ are fixed at .80 to the US$ so you're 20% down on arrival. It's not uncommon to pay $50 for an average dinner. Even KFC was pricey. It's really a $2500/month place minimum. And I'm being optimistic. More if you actually want to eat. 1st or 2nd most expensive place in the Caribbean I've been. Food in the markets is shockingly high also. Not a lot of other things to do there either, butterfly farm, botanical gardens, kayaking, Seven Mile Beach activities are about the highlights. Downtown is cruise port central, there can be up to five ships in town daily - good time to be elsewhere.

Utila is sort of a tinier version of Bonaire - without any shore diving. Boat dives would be under your budget, staying in town would be affordable. You won't/can't rent a car - no need since all of town is one main road maybe a couple miles long. Everything else is scooters/ATV's. I'd be bored to death there after a week.

Maybe consider Roatan instead. You should be able to find something on/near the water for $1000/mo. Look on vrbo.com in the West End, West Bay or Sandy Bay. Dives are 10/$300 in the West End at a dozen dive shops. All boat diving there also - the only shore dives are on private resort property - if you're not a guest. Although it would probably only take you about 2 weeks to see all the Roatan attractions also - it's a pretty short list.

Lots of bugs on either island also if that's a consideration. Most of the beaches are infested with sand flies and Malaria shots aren't a bad idea. Food options are reasonable, a good meal is $20. In the West End they also have local food trucks daily with produce/fruit and fresh fish. It's nice stuff - we bought some. There's good food shopping in French Harbor on the other side of the island also - several large markets. Coxen Hole is mostly a place to visit during the day.

You can also go between Roatan and Utila for $100 R/T via the ferries if you wanted to check it out for a week or so. Roatan has decent internet access and Anthony's Key has a chamber if needed. The hospital was kind of dreary though - my friend spent a night there. Local people seemed friendly, I think the native population is Creole originally but most speak some English and Spanish.

Mainland Honduras is a pretty scary place - murder capital of the world - most suggest just getting thru it as fast as possible - even not leaving the airport unless necessary. So about all you'd want to do is maybe tour the Copan ruins some weekend - that's probably pretty safe. You can also fly direct to Roatan from the U.S.

What others have suggested might be a good alternative - Curacao. It's a larger island, cheaper and easier to get to from the U.S. They have the finest medical facilities in the region including a chamber. My friend owns there - lives here. She rents her house - I've sen pictures - similar to a decent 3BR/2BA home here - for $1200 month. In a normal neighborhood a 10min. drive from the beach. I've been to a food store nearby - prices were higher but not shockingly so. As compared to Cayman where we bought things for breakfast/lunch for the week and snacks and it was well over $100US.

I could find enough to do on Curacao to keep interested for a while. They have some real nightlife, bars, nice restaurants, beach clubs, a dozen or so casinos. Famous shopping district downtown, a lot of old history - some forts etc. Rif Fort is an old fort at the harbor entrance with a modern multi-level shopping center adjacent, shops, restaurants etc. Plus the old downtown is the one you see in all the pictures - the multi-colored buildings all are stores. There's also a farmers marked behind it and a fish market where you buy off the boats. Things like the Sea Aquarium, Ostrich Farm, Christoffel Park and unlike Bonaire there's at least 2 dozen really nice beaches. Curacao - a unique Caribban Paradise

One advantage Curacao has over Bonaire is that almost all the beaches are also the better shore dives - many have a dive operation on site. The majority of the population is concentrated in town and east - west 1/2 hr. in Lagun is considered a vacation spot for the locals. Your 2/$100 boat dive converts into about a week of shore diving instead. Several times we saw a boat moored at a site we were shore diving - we did one boat dive all week and I felt like there were only 3-4 others I missed out on.

Curacao is the deep water port there so things are available. There's real stores for buying common things that might break during your stay. You don't see a lot of that on Bonaire although the food shopping has significantly improved over the last couple of years. Also even though it's the "C" island, it's actually between Aruba and Bonaire so cheaper/shorter flights to either.

If you want to see Bonaire - fly over mid-week and spend a week or two there. I've seen R/T flights in the $80 range - just not on the weekends. Bonaire runs on a Sat-Sat schedule. I guarantee you'll run out of thing to do by then - unless you're very easily amused. We did most of the highlights there on our non-dive day. People go there to dive their brains out as dr rich suggested. Some decent restaurants but prices are high there also - everything comes thru Curacao first. Bonaire is pretty expensive also - and pricier to get to originally. There's also bus service that runs all over Curacao - our apt. mgr. told us it's pretty reliable.

Go to any of the Bonaire websites - infobonaire.com or the other one and check the list of things to do there. One advantage to Bonaire is you can convert your 2tanks/$100 into most of a week of shore diving there also. And they're physically closer to each other than Curacao - many run back to back south of town.

There's just a few shore dives in Hawaii also...lol - like 40 on Maui. Scuba Shore Diving Region: Hawaiian Islands If you can afford it, it could be a good base - there's all the Maui stuff plus the ferries to Lana'i or Molokai - both of which are quieter. I sense that immersing yourself in the Hawaiian culture is easy on Molokai - never been there. Boat dives will run closer to 2/$130 though.
If you're staying in one place that long, you're going to have to look into the visa requirements and permitted length of stays.
That was my first thought when you mentioned your timeframes also. I think anything longer than 90 days requires a visa most places. And some proof that you're planning to leave - like a return plane ticket.
 
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This is better than a travel agency! Appreciate all the details and info! Yeah, Hawaii and Cayman might have to be on our vacation (short trip) plan or a place to move to once we sell our place...didn't have Curaçao on the short list....hoping it's not too commercialized (or Americanized) as Aruba was...

Bugs scare me...malaria, etc yes, but more paranoid about something crawling on me at night...(hence always cautious about worms at nite dives!)


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Haven't been to Bali but I know the lodging and such there can be very reasonable.

I did spend 10 weeks in Fiji on my first trip there, and that would be a great destination for you. I would break it up into 30 day stays at three different places on three different islands, or possibly move around even more than that as it is a big country with a LOT to see and the people are extremely friendly.
 
Curacao is an odd mix. The locals speak Papamientu, my friend has dual Dutch/Curacao citizenship - she's ethnically Creole I believe - they're a Dutch protectorate so the Netherlands has a military base there - must be a cush job for them. There were an awful lot of German tourists at certain resorts - on Bonaire also. Everybody takes dollars and gives change in Guilders. Decent exchange rate, I never felt like I was taken advantage of anywhere. Willemstad is everything from school kids wanting to practice their English - we stopped for directions a couple times just because they seemed to enjoy it - and once we were lost - there's no pattern to the street layout that I could tell - to tourists off the cruise ships, the Megaport is about 2 blocks from downtown.

Very pleasant place - I liked it better than Bonaire. We only went all the way downtown one time - the signature floating bridge connects the two halves of downtown. That area is older and built on low cliffs - farther south there's some rentals that are at least oceanfront - if not beachfront. There's also quite a few in the Piscadera Bay area two miles north of town - it's close enough to access everything yet quieter. Nice area if you can find something there - the market I mention below is there and a few of the larger resorts, Marriott, Hilton etc. There's a convention center there but it was never busy while we were there that week. Royal Palms is an upscale condo/rental community they were just developing last time we were there. Looked pretty nice - about a block downhill to a nice beach. Caribbean Sea Sports is at the Marriott and there's a shore dive there also.

If you go west or farther east it gets really quiet fast. The other big town - Westpunt - isn't very. 2-3 resorts, about 6 restaurants and that end of Curacao is higher so most places have stairs down to the water. About a 45min. drive out and really quiet at night - we found it hard to find a meal there one night after 8PM. IMO the best shore dive we did is there - Playa Kalki/Alice in Wonderland.

We also stayed in Lagun which is a nice area a little closer in - there's quite a few nicer condos around Playa Lagun but there's virtually nothing there - one or two "snaks" and one very small market. Most people who live/stay out West shop in town first - Centrum Market is a typical mid-sized food store like you'd find here - they sell disposable coolers for the ride out. It's a mile or two south of the airport. Look at Coral Estates also - it's got the old Habitat dive resort on site - they're supposed to be doing some sort of conversion to condos IIRC. They'd be pretty small but there's houses in there for rent also. Nice dive right there with Diveversity. You'd drive to everything from there though - there's a small town a mile or so inland then it's about 15-20mins. back to Willemstad for anything else.

A couple other condo/villa places to look at are Marazul, Lagoon Blou and the one across the beach from Lagoon Blou which I can't remember. All were nice and waterfront - stairs down to the beach/dive sites. Marazul has their own, LB is in Playa Lagun. There's a nice outdoor bar/grill there also perched on one side up the cliff. Other food options are mostly in town though - or near it.

I haven't been to Aruba for comparison but Curacao definitely is Dutch. They voted during the time we were there to go back to Dutch Protectorate status. My friend said it was because the Dutch offered to take on their massive debt. There's a deepwater container port there and that area is a little rough - and an old Shell oil refinery further inland that hey nationalized some years ago. My friend is an oil guy from Houston and he could tell by looking at it that they weren't running it efficiently. When you drive over the big bridge at night you see it glowing off in the distance.
 
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Depends......do you want to head way west with a little south in it----or head east with a little south in it......Sounds like you are looking for different cultures as part of your 'Wants List' so I'd head way out in the Pacific(a lot of the Caribbean has been 'US'ized'??)---maybe Philippines??....
 
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