When 2 Sets Of Doubles Is Not Enough

[triton94949]

So you charge the full price of the product after two weeks? :06:

No, he is saying that he does not loan out his tanks.

 

[mempilot]

So you charge the full price of the product after two weeks? :06:

Nah. For a grand, I just forget they ever left the house.

 

[triton94949]

Nah. For a grand, I just forget they ever left the house.

A grand is about what a good set of doubles plus bands plus manifold costs. I would not let any of my doubles go for a grand. Two grand, sure. One grand, nope. I spent too much time getting them and putting them together. Plus sea trials, etc.

 

[mempilot]

No, he is saying that he does not loan out his tanks.

Actually, I'd loan them out. I have and do need to borrow sets of doubles from time to time and would defineatly return the favor.

Any of you guys looked at CCR as opposed to OC? I'm thinking of making the transition later this year.

Wouldn't need to lug around so much gas, at least not in sets of doubles.

 

[mempilot]

A grand is about what a good set of doubles plus bands plus manifold costs. I would not let any of my doubles go for a grand. Two grand, sure. One grand, nope. I spent too much time getting them and putting them together. Plus sea trials, etc.

I've got about a grand in this set.

OMS Faber 98's, cleaned and VP'd
OMS bands over rubber gasket
Halcyon 300bar manifold

They've been apart a couple of times. I started with a DR 300 bar and it was recalled. It took many months of f'ing around with DR until I broke down and bought the Halcyon.

I like the tanks, but would prefer hot dipped. I repair the nicks in the painted coating quite frequently. I do a lot of wreck penetration and it takes it's toll on the finish. Plus, I hate boots on tanks, so the bottoms get a little beat up from day to day stuff.

 

[triton94949]

Actually, I'd loan them out. I have and do need to borrow sets of doubles from time to time and would defineatly return the favor.

Any of you guys looked at CCR as opposed to OC? I'm thinking of making the transition later this year.

The only problem I have with CCR diving is that you start completely over in terms of total investment. It costs a bundle to (excuse the expression) "do it right" in the range of $10+ thousand dollars. To me, the main benefit of CCR is videography. There is no bubble stream to get in the way of your filming. Otherwise, it makes more sense to choose OC or CCR early on and then stick with your initial choice.

You also will have the added problem on CCR that you need an equally competent CCR buddy. Note that while an OC diver can share air with you, a CCR diver cannot share air. Good luck with your desires. You will probably make someone else really happy when you sell all of your OC gear dirt cheap.

 

[Curt Bowen]

When your friends tell you that they want to do an entire weekend of repetitive deco diving, and you dust off your extra set of doubles (your third set in the closet), which when together with your two working sets of doubles, gives you 3 sets of twin tanks filled with trimix, then you know that two sets of doubles is not enough.

I called one of my old friends, who owns a scuba shop, and hardly ever goes diving anymore, except on vacation once a year in the tropics with his wife and kids, and I asked him, "You know that set of doubles that you have not used in awhile? Can I buy them off you? Wanna sell them?"

I never thought that two sets of double tanks would ever be insufficient for my type of tech deco diving. Soon I will have 4 sets. I suppose it all depends on your diving buddies and how wild about scuba they are!

Time for a rebreather and 6 pony bottles

 

[mempilot]

The only problem I have with CCR diving is that you start completely over in terms of total investment. It costs a bundle to (excuse the expression) "do it right" in the range of $10+ thousand dollars. To me, the main benefit of CCR is videography. There is no bubble stream to get in the way of your filming. Otherwise, it makes more sense to choose OC or CCR early on and then stick with your initial choice.

You also will have the added problem on CCR that you need an equally competent CCR buddy. Note that while an OC diver can share air with you, a CCR diver cannot share air. Good luck with your desires. You will probably make someone else really happy when you sell all of your OC gear dirt cheap.

I won't sell the OC, but the initial investment is huge. The savings on gas is huge though as well, so over time, the investment evens out. The real benefit that I would appreciate, since I'm not a photographer, is the ability to do multiple dives on the rig without having multiple sets of equipment. Also, the unit is lighter, even with bailout and deco, than an OC rig going to the same depth.

Actually, a CCR can share with a OC off the dilutant, as long as the dilutant matches the bottom gas of the OC diver. Planning is a little more involved, but it can be done. There is an example of an OC, SCR, CCR dive team contigency plan in the Technical Diver Encyclopedia by Tom Mount and IANTD.

It will take quite a bit of time and experience to get to the point of diving a CCR to the point I'm at with OC right now. It'll keep me on my toes.

 

[triton94949]

Time for a rebreather and 6 pony bottles

Please don't tempt me.

I get this every time I go to get a trimix fill as well!

 

[triton94949]

I won't sell the OC, but the initial investment is huge. ...

Yes you will. Everyone I know who has gone over to CCR has never come back.