what reasons have you seen people not pass certifications?

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Can't swim is one not uncommon reason especially with people from certain areas of the world(!)

Open Water failing to pass is normally lack of comfort. Ultimately if you ask "if your mask suddenly came off and there wasn't an instructor there what would happen?". Some of them admit "probably panic". OK not passing.

Being able to do the skills with an instructor 3 inches from you nice and relaxed on the bottom is one thing. Being able to do them unexpectedly, while swimming without an instructor is a completely different thing.

Ear problems are another common one although nerves also leads to a lot of phantom ear problems masking the real reasons.
 
I have see students fail because
1)Cant clear mask/bolt to surface when cold water hits the eye sockets.
2)Cant swim good.
3)Getting certified for the wrong reason or because somebody wanted them too.
 
As a dm I told one woman on her checkouts, I was not involved in her pool training, that she had no business on scuba due to her anxiety and fear. The instructor got pissed at me for that. Too bad. The look of relief on her face was worth it.

This has been my experience a couple of times, too. Sometimes what people are HOPING for is to be told they can't do it, so they have something "legitimate" to silence whatever voice has driven them to try.
 
The single biggest repeating factor here in the midatlantic is "lack of comfort in the water". Just because they live by the shore and go to the beach often does not equal "in water comfort". A lot of people are in love with the idea of scuba diving, not scuba diving.

I failed my first attempt at ditch and don.
Eric
 
The days I was doing my Open Water certification check-out dives (off Ft Lauderdale) we had a 25knot east wind and 4-6 foot seas. The other students were so concerned with the surface conditions that they didn't pay attention to the dive briefings...consequently they had a lot of trouble in the water. I was the only one (of 5 total students) that passed that weekend. All the others had issues ranging from not being able to perform surface skills to equipment issues like not knowing how to dump a BC...even after the instructor showed them multiple times.
My take on it is that we wear a lot of equipment to survive underwater...you better know how to operate it or it'll be the death of you. Open Water Cert really doesn't do much more that teach the basics of survival and if you can't perform the basics, don't get in the water unless you have additional instruction and practice.
 
I'd seriously question the judgement of an instructor that took students in 25kt winds and 6ft seas for their first ever sea dive. Especially if you know you have a big or nervous group.
 
Panicking, near drowning, and needing to be rescued during surface navigation exercises on snorkel gear...
 
I've failed to successfully train some.
Nice line, Sam. It is important to remember that with the vast majority of agencies, there is no failure. The student has the option of continuing to work until he or she meets the standards. Ideally, we instructors can use our vast skills (;)) to bring anyone to a passing level. In reality, some students elude our best efforts.

I had two very unrealistic grandparents try to get through to the confined water (referral) level in the few days before a planned family trip to Hawaii. The husband was not doing badly, but his wife, who had had a double mastectomy less than a year before, was struggling and growing exhausted. She finally conceded that she wasn't going to make it and dropped out so that I could go on with her husband. It was at that time that they revealed that the pool sessions were the first time in her life she had ever had her head fully under water.

I had a 13 year old boy show up for the academic sessions without having done any of the knowledge reviews. He swore he had read everything and knew all the answers, but he was obviously lying and didn't have a clue on most of the answers. I learned that this was a troubled youth who was staying with his aunt and uncle, who thought that getting certified so he could dive with them would help him. When we talked, they agreed that he needed a more mature attitude and withdrew him from the class.

I have a 17 year old boy in a cold water OW session whom I had not had in the pool. He had poor mask skills (and his other skills were weak), but he got through until he finally could not do the mask removal skill. This was the last session in the fall before the reservoir closed, and he decided to finish the next spring. I don't know if he did.

We had a brother and sister with different degrees of autism. The sister eventually got certified, after many, many sessions. The brother ended up with the scuba diver certification after it was clear to everyone that he should always dive with a professional.

I have had a couple of others with situations similar to what others have described.

A few years ago a SB poster working on his DM certification made a post in which he talked about how common it was for people to drop out during the first pool sessions. Apparently at least one person did it in nearly every class he had observed, and he assumed this happened everywhere. I said this was very unusual and indicated something was wrong with the operation through which he was being trained. Instruction properly done should carefully guide students from wherever they are to where they need to be, and only a small minority should exhibit insurmountable problems.

He disagreed, arguing that scuba standards should be rigorous, students should not even start instruction until they could meet certain high standards, and the operation with which he was associated was doing students a service by weeding out the unfit early. If someone has that philosophy, they will not only experience a high failure rate, they will be proud of it.
 
I know someone who failed Rescue, having to be rescued themselves.

I know someone who failed the written test for OW the first time - the academic part was apparently not their thing. But I think they managed to squeak by on a second try.
 
We don't fail anyone. We'll continue to work with any student who will continue to put in a good faith effort to improve. However, of those who don't complete thier training and who can swim (yes, we do get one or two of those each year), I can honestly say that it is all about anxiety issues.

How that manifest itself ranged from completely locking up on the written test to screwing up any skill you can name to doing thingis to endanger themselves on the surface and so on.
 

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