Diver Dennis
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Good point in the EDIT WaterDog.
What Makes Divers a "DIR Diver"?
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toodles
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Good thread.
Here's a question for ya....
Does a diver NEED to be GUE certified to be a 'DIR' diver?
Here's a question for ya....
Does a diver NEED to be GUE certified to be a 'DIR' diver?
toodles:
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absolutely not, there is only one dir certification and that is dir-f and it only serves to give you an understanding of what dir is all about.
you sure can accumulate this information without ever taking dir-f.
now, what makes a diver a dir diver?
read this on the gue site
and then read this
if you fully understand and apply the gear configuration and the principles behind dir and then go out with your dive buddy who also fully understands and applies this to his/her diving without any exceptions, then you were a dir diver for that day.
other days you might chose to derail from any of these principles and therefore on those days you are not a dir diver.
Thats exacatly what I was talking about "I read a page and a half of stuff and since I am able to read, I understand what it says...so IM DIR!!!"
I dont think so.
Im gonna have to go w/ GUE training, WKPP, or training from AG now that he is doing his own thing.
Another thing that I have a problem grasping is how do you do some dives "DIR" and others not? IT IS MORE THAN GEAR!!!!!!!!!!! Heck if its that easy maby in DIR-F they should just sit you in a circle and read that article to you! that way you can "be DIR" and understand everything about the whole system
Really? for some wild reason I thought that DIR-fundamentals was only the FUNDAMENTALS of DIR.
I dont think so.
Im gonna have to go w/ GUE training, WKPP, or training from AG now that he is doing his own thing.
Another thing that I have a problem grasping is how do you do some dives "DIR" and others not? IT IS MORE THAN GEAR!!!!!!!!!!! Heck if its that easy maby in DIR-F they should just sit you in a circle and read that article to you! that way you can "be DIR" and understand everything about the whole system
Data:
Really? for some wild reason I thought that DIR-fundamentals was only the FUNDAMENTALS of DIR.
lamont
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i'm provisional rectriox, but I hit the kool-aid pretty hard... you figure out what to call me...
I've had similar experiences on dives where the boat crew or other divers notice the gear, and usually form an opinion of us DIR types. The part I enjoyed the most on our last trip was the DM giving her opinion of our gear in a negative way on day 1, and by the end of the week, she totally backed us up by saying "these guys go first because they won't silt out the Cathedrals."
One of the skippers we had during this same trip noticed our gear, and started talking about dives on air to 200' with a single al80 tank. I mentioned that was cool if he was comfortable diving that way, but that it was definitely not something I was comfortable with. He was a bit shocked when I told him that, and was impressed by it. He mentioned that very few of his customers actually knew their limits, and invited us back to do some deeper dives with him when we were ready.
I often refer to my diving style as DIR, or mention that I dive DIR. I find it helps to get it out on the table so we can get past it and go diving. I've found that there are 2 ways it usually goes: 1) they have no idea what DIR is, or 2) they're curious to see what the differences are in the water. I could care less if I actually was DIR or not. It's just not that important to me to label myself one way or the other. Mind you, I probably wouldn't have had this opinion after my first attempt at DIR-F, but now, the education and experience I've gained are enough for me (DIR-F x2, RecTriox, and NAUI Wreck Penetration 1 with AG).
I'm off to load the car with dive gear. Our Naui Tech class is coming up next month, and we're working on mid water drills with stage bottles tomorrow. Should be fun.
~ Jason
P.S. Joe mentioned he's almost ready to share the wreck video with the world, which means we'll be able to release our edits soon after. Here's a link to the Yukon Bump. I'm the one being hard on the Wreck, and Joe T. (GUE Instructor) is the one laughing in the background.
One of the skippers we had during this same trip noticed our gear, and started talking about dives on air to 200' with a single al80 tank. I mentioned that was cool if he was comfortable diving that way, but that it was definitely not something I was comfortable with. He was a bit shocked when I told him that, and was impressed by it. He mentioned that very few of his customers actually knew their limits, and invited us back to do some deeper dives with him when we were ready.
I often refer to my diving style as DIR, or mention that I dive DIR. I find it helps to get it out on the table so we can get past it and go diving. I've found that there are 2 ways it usually goes: 1) they have no idea what DIR is, or 2) they're curious to see what the differences are in the water. I could care less if I actually was DIR or not. It's just not that important to me to label myself one way or the other. Mind you, I probably wouldn't have had this opinion after my first attempt at DIR-F, but now, the education and experience I've gained are enough for me (DIR-F x2, RecTriox, and NAUI Wreck Penetration 1 with AG).
I'm off to load the car with dive gear. Our Naui Tech class is coming up next month, and we're working on mid water drills with stage bottles tomorrow. Should be fun.
~ Jason
P.S. Joe mentioned he's almost ready to share the wreck video with the world, which means we'll be able to release our edits soon after. Here's a link to the Yukon Bump. I'm the one being hard on the Wreck, and Joe T. (GUE Instructor) is the one laughing in the background.
Excellent question. I would like to know.
I am in no way close to DIR (just ask Rick Inman) I follow some of the posts in this forum and would like to take DIR-F from MHK in the near future. DIR is the direction I would like my diving to go.
Sooooo, I’m wondering… GUE puts a lot of emphasis on staying in shape. If you do the gear configuration, the skills, etc. etc. But, if you smoke, are in poor health, or over weight are you automatically not DIR?
I am in no way close to DIR (just ask Rick Inman) I follow some of the posts in this forum and would like to take DIR-F from MHK in the near future. DIR is the direction I would like my diving to go.
Sooooo, I’m wondering… GUE puts a lot of emphasis on staying in shape. If you do the gear configuration, the skills, etc. etc. But, if you smoke, are in poor health, or over weight are you automatically not DIR?
Xanthro
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WaterDawg:
The Chinese call their food Chinese food, only in Chinese. They break it down into regions the same as we do.
Do you not call American food - American Food?
I call American Food - American food all the time.
I'm a just barely provisional DIR-F person, so I fall into the category of vocal but barely educated.
I'd be willing to say that a DIR diver is something along the lines of what I described in my much-pummeled recent thread. Somebody trained by GUE understands, as vbcoachchris said, a common gear configuration, the use of standardized gas mixes, and a team approach to diving. What's more, they aspire to polished diving skills -- buoyancy, trim and situational awareness -- beyond what we are taught in any basic education. In addition, in my experience, they are also committed to supporting team members, even if they are weaker, if they are trying. They have also committed to the humility of a team debrief, even if it means swallowing some unwelcome criticism. It's just a different ethos . . . it reminds me powerfully of my surgical residency, where the aim was perfection, the understanding was that one would always fall short, and the commitment was to criticism and regrouping and once again attacking the issue, always to improve.
The poor man I dove with Wednesday week was a 350 dive accomplished technical diver who was faced with the project of supporting a novice diver through a night dive where she wasn't coping well. Instead of being angry and frustrated that he didn't get the technical training dive he expected, he was pleased to have learned some things about his own diving from having to cope with me. THAT's DIR.
I'd be willing to say that a DIR diver is something along the lines of what I described in my much-pummeled recent thread. Somebody trained by GUE understands, as vbcoachchris said, a common gear configuration, the use of standardized gas mixes, and a team approach to diving. What's more, they aspire to polished diving skills -- buoyancy, trim and situational awareness -- beyond what we are taught in any basic education. In addition, in my experience, they are also committed to supporting team members, even if they are weaker, if they are trying. They have also committed to the humility of a team debrief, even if it means swallowing some unwelcome criticism. It's just a different ethos . . . it reminds me powerfully of my surgical residency, where the aim was perfection, the understanding was that one would always fall short, and the commitment was to criticism and regrouping and once again attacking the issue, always to improve.
The poor man I dove with Wednesday week was a 350 dive accomplished technical diver who was faced with the project of supporting a novice diver through a night dive where she wasn't coping well. Instead of being angry and frustrated that he didn't get the technical training dive he expected, he was pleased to have learned some things about his own diving from having to cope with me. THAT's DIR.
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