What is average surface air consumption?

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I'll throw it up, why not?!

Resting (deco style resting) .4cuft/min

Working ( swimming against a decent current) .8cuft/min

This was done in a wetsuit and a single Al80, Male, 5'6'', 155lbs.
 
The measurements are interchangable for my purposes (assuming a SAC rate comes with the tank details) because they both represent the same thing - how much a diver breaths per minute. The difference is essentually one of units (kind of like converting temperatures from F to C).

You can convert from RMV to SAC:
RMV = SAC / tank_service_pressure * tank_volume

Or you can convert from RMV to SAC:
SAC = tank_service_pressure * tank_volume / RMV

That being said, a given number should be associated with the correct term. It could be confusing if you said your SAC is 0.7 because that suggests that you are consuming 0.7 psi/minute when what you mean is 0.7 cf/m.

I think what several of us are saying is that because we can easily convert from one to another, either method of representing the measurement suffices. I think what you're saying is that people should be careful to represent their measurements as eithing being psi/minute or cf/m, and that it's confusing when they use a term which generally refers to one and then use the units that are associated with the other.

The fact that the numbers themselves generally point out which units are being used (cf/m answers are generally in the 0.3 - 1.5 range, and psi/m numbers are generally in the 3 - 50 range (small singles to large doubles)) helps as a rule of thumb but could lead to poor test result interpretation at some point.

What might be best is if we didn't worry about the term SAC, SCR, or RMV, and simply said: my breathing rate is x cf/m or my breathing rate is x psi/m (with tank x).

Andy - I respect that you are being sincere and am working to present you with a sincere explanation.
 
Atticus:
What might be best is if we didn't worry about the term SAC, SCR, or RMV, and simply said: my breathing rate is x cf/m or my breathing rate is x psi/m (with tank x).

Agreed.
 
Atticus:
I think what several of us are saying is that because we can easily convert from one to another, either method of representing the measurement suffices. I think what you're saying is that people should be careful to represent their measurements as eithing being psi/minute or cf/m, and that it's confusing when they use a term which generally refers to one and then use the units that are associated with the other.

not sure who you are addressing this to (me or Cave Diver) but that was my point.

my poor noggin' is set on the idea that RMV and SAC are two different things, but
that if i say my SAC is .72 cf/m that is *not* RMV

but ... anyway.... i'm confused again damn it... i guess if it's expressed
in cf/m it is technically RMV... is that the point?
 
H2Andy:
but ... anyway.... i'm confused again damn it... i guess if it's expressed in cf/m it is technically RMV... is that the point?

Correct, at least by the agency that I was taught by. RMV = cfm
 
Atticus:
What might be best is if we didn't worry about the term SAC, SCR, or RMV, and simply said: my breathing rate is x cf/m or my breathing rate is x psi/m (with tank x).

Great. Then we'll have SAC, SCR, RMV, and now BR. Another (semi-)synonymous term to deal with.
 
... in medicine we use L/min for RMV...

So we could convert from cuft/min to liters/min. So my working SAC is 16.9 L/min. That would be pretty cool.
 
Stephen Ash:
... in medicine we use L/min for RMV...

So we could convert from cuft/min to liters/min. So my working SAC is 16.9 L/min. That would be pretty cool.

That means you could empty a 12L tank filled to 1 bar in less than a minute. Cool. :D
 
You guys got me curious, and I wanted to see how low I could go while still breathing reasonably. (Not safe, but my location was :D ) My girlfriend thinks I'm really weird but....

Male
5'8"
140 lbs
92F in a Bathtub wearing "skinsuit"

0.27 scfm! I think I got a slight CO2 headache doing it though. :shakehead
 
As calculated by my dive computer...

0.63 cf/m or 24.6 psi/m (if I have the conversion right)...

Male
6'4"
235#

Range of 11 psi/m (2nd checkout OW dive (hard to believe)) to 55 psi/m (first night dive (easier to believe))...

DH
 

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