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Stacy,

I am right there with you when it comes to cold. I have the extreme and compact (helps when you used to be the US rep) and am looking at UP's connection as well. Let us know what you think.

Eric
 
O-ring once bubbled...
Maybe it is my head or hands that are making me cold...
Using dry gloves will keep you a lot warmer. I use DCI rings.

I use a Harvey's Titanium zip up the back hood that unzips during the dive... and when it does I start getting cold all over... so yes... the hood makes a difference too.
 
Uncle Pug once bubbled...

Using dry gloves will keep you a lot warmer. I use DCI rings.

I use a Harvey's Titanium zip up the back hood that unzips during the dive... and when it does I start getting cold all over... so yes... the hood makes a difference too.
Maybe I will make that a winter project..I need to add a p-valve anyway so I can do the ring system install at the same time. DCI? What a crappy name for a dive company! :wink:
 
Uncle Pug once bubbled...

no kidding.... maybe they should rename to Diving Concepts Scuba :wink:
Did you keep your inner (original) latex seal or not? If so, any problems with glove squeeze or did you run some sort of tubing?
 
Uncle Pug once bubbled...
I run a short length of rubber tubing under each seal.
Cool, thanks...I may go that route but I will give the 3mm gloves one more chance on the 21st...
 
O-ring once bubbled...
I have 300g polarfleece and get cold in weenie water...what are you guys doing for hoods/gloves? Maybe it is my head or hands that are making me cold...

For what it's worth, I get cold wearing the same underwear as UP (mine's a 300G one-piece single layer). His are two-layer (inner being micro-fleece), which is similar to my wife's setup. I'm currently using the botoom layer of polypro, but have considered getting a set of Chilly's (tm) microfleece underwear to see if it would keep me warmer, since my wife who is typically *way* colder than me stays warmer in her setup than I do.

I'm also using the same DCI gloves, and they are the best. I have to say that my diving comfort increased immensely in cold water with the addition of the gloves. Previously, a 15 minute dive with my 7mm neoprene gloves in 45-60 water was the most I could do before my hands go so numb I couldn't hardly use them. Now, I dive them in *all* water, from 36-75 (it doesn't get any warmer than that around here).

I'm using a 5mm White's zipped hood which tucks into the collar of my DUI, and the zipper makes it really easy to don/doff. I've been considering an upgrade to a 7mm hood, or perhaps a blown-nitrogen neoprene one without the zipper for *really* cold water (ie; ice-diving).

Basically, from about 35-50 degrees, even with the 300G fleece and dry gloves, I'm still chilled about 20-25 minutes into the dive. I've added additional layers, and it helps somewhat, but I end up having to add a bunch of air to the suit, and I'm getting really constrained so much that I can't reach my valves anymore, so I need to re-think things.

I suspect one of my problems is the drysuit. The CLx material gets pretty stiff when the water is cold, so dexterity suffers. I've considered getting a 400G thinsulate garment, but the price is prohibitive.

Bottom line is that the dry gloves helped me out immensely, but I'm still getting chilled. I haven't (yet) found a good solution that doesn't involve either:
* Adding a bunch of air, making for very floaty feet at the end of the dive.
* Adding a bunch of layers, making dexterity difficult.

It's possible that a better hood is the ticket, although I find that the back of my head stays almost dry, so it's not likely that the seals are bad.

I'm sure this doesn't help you much, but it's another data-point...


Nate
 
Thanks for your post...I suspect we are just seeing different tolerances to exposure. I am pretty uninsulated naturally (155 lbs) and do not have an argon setup. I'll get a few more data points on my own since we are diving the Chesapeake for oysters on the 21st and have the following setups:

Me - DUI CLx450 - 300 wt polartec one piece - neoprene gloves
Buddy#1 - DUI CLx450 - skiing undergarments - neoprene gloves
Buddy#2 - DUI CLx450 - Diving Concepts something or other - dry glove/ring system
Buddy#3 - DUI TLS350 - DUI Fleece - neoprene gloves

I'll let you know who froze and who didn't... :cold:
 
O-ring once bubbled...
I'll get a few more data points on my own since we are diving the Chesapeake for oysters on the 21st and have the following setups:

So, how did it work out?

An update on my setup. My inlaws bought me some high-quality micro-fleece underwear for Christmas, and yesterday was my first dive of the new year.

Previously my bottom layer was a 2-piece light-weight polypro layer, which was replaced by the micro-fleece.

Setup:
* Lycra biking shorts
* Micro-fleece (tops and bottoms)
* Heavy-weight Cabela's polypros
* 1-piece/single layer Softwear 300G suit
* CLx450/DUI
* DC drygloves
* White's zippered 7mm hood

The dive was cut short because my dive partner's suit leaked, but I was *much* warmer this time, despite it being the coldest water I've have dived into. (It was actually colder than the one ice-dive I went on, even though it was open-water at this stretch of the lake).

20 mins @ 41' at 33 degrees.

The only downside is that I think I need another 2# of weight to get down with the micro-fleece vs. the thin polypros. Unfortunately, my ACB+ pockets are max'd out, so I either need new tanks, an STA to give me more weight, or a way to stuff more weight into the already overloaded pockets.

How was your dive? Did you stay warm enough?


Nate
 
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