Visual Jumps

[LiteHedded]

:scorned: What, the rest of us aren't good enough to listen in? :scorned:

I think a couple people would post things there they wouldn't post here. me for instance...

 

[LiteHedded]

Feel free.

ok why not

 

[Cave Diver]

This has been an interesting read... even as seldom as I get to dive in caves, I see this on a regular basis. I know a lot of divers who do a visual jump from outside the cave to the gold line at the onset of their dive. In popular caves like P1, I can see it getting pretty convoluted if every one ran a line in. I have done the jump in the Godzilla room with a reel and was glad I did, because I did not recognize it until we made the loop back around. :shocked2:

It would also be interesting to see the number of people who fail to run lines in wrecks because they're expecting to exit in a different spot than they entered. I'm much less likely to run a line into a wreck, but I'm much more choosy on penetration.

 

[Sas]

I think a couple people would post things there they wouldn't post here. me for instance...

I'd be interested to hear what you had to say, especially given I raised the initial point. A few people said the poll is skewed and probably it is... although I did make it anonymous so people would be happy to vote. I am a new cave diver, ~70 cave dives and just over a year certified, and I have been unaware recently that many people broke the continuous guideline rule so am just interested to hear their justification (don't agree with the rule? complacent? etc), any issues they have encountered and so on.

 

[JahJahwarrior]

I feel like people are less likely to be honest when anyone (or even a limited population) can read the remarks. I've had much more candid discussions about visual jumps with buddies who are active in this thread, in person.

I do agree that there are old cave divers and there are foolish cave divers, but very few old, foolish cave divers.

I looked for a way to predict who would break the rules in some research I did quite a while ago now. I keep meaning to reformat the work, to fit into a page or two, and be aimed only at cave divers. I also dream of repeating the research without the time constraints of a due date, the time to get a much larger sample size. I was able to get a much larger sample when doing marketing research on scuba divers, a subject that isn't quite as interesting to me.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42640/CaveDivingRiskPerceptionandBehavior.pdf

 

[Sas]

Thanks will check out that article JahJah.

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

I think this would have made an interesting t2t thread

There's nothing I would post there that I wouldn't post here... now if only there were a forum that would allow more upfront postings viewable by only established tech divers(peers), things might get interesting.

 

[LiteHedded]

I just assume everyone not posting in that thread is visual jumping like crazy

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

You can probably assume the same for this thread too.

 

[ianr33]

There's nothing I would post there that I wouldn't post here... now if only there were a forum that would allow more upfront postings viewable by only established tech divers(peers), things might get interesting.

Maybe there should be a t2t2 forum ?