Versatility Xdeep zen/ghost

[Saty]

Hi everyone,

I'm considering getting either a Xdeep Zen or Ghost (standard), i'm doing only rec diving at the moment.

I have trouble understanding if gettting the Zen make the shift to a double mount (in the futur?) possible or does it mean having a complete different backplate setup anyway ?

I'll be traveling so i'm leaning toward a ghost, but if in the long run the Zen is more flexible then i can change my opinion
If it makes any difference, i'll run a long hose setup.

 

[Fastmarc]

The Ghost is great for travel, but it cannot be upgraded to doubles. That's for the Zen. A quick check of their site and doing a comparison will show the differences.

 

[FreqFlier]

Zen make the shift to a double mount

I have Zen Deluxe (I like quick release buckles...) and love it. It's convertible to doubles by changing the wing and bands. Same plate, same harness.

Zen alu plate is thicker (4mm vs 3mm, ready for doubles) and Ghost is about 1.5 lbs lighter. Both have optional removable weight and trim weight pockets.

IMHO Zen is more versatile, it's bladder is made of supposedly better material.

 

[quietlife4me]

Though it is not well published, you can get a Ghost backplate and use the Zen wing for what they call a Zen ultra light configuration.

Which is what I did…when traveling I move my Zen wing to my Ghost plate. And when I’m local and diving cold I use the Zen stainless steel plate.

 

[Badger7]

IMHO Zen is more versatile, it's bladder is made of supposedly better material.

Not necessarily better material, but a Zen wing is definitely a more typical design. The Ghost wing is really lightweight and single ply. It rolls up smaller, lighter for travel, but arguably a little less sturdy and slightly more prone to pinch flats if mishandled. I have a ghost wing, and it does the job, but I do feel the need to baby it a bit more than I do more standard bladder inside a protective layer of cordura, like a Zen or any other modern wing design for that matter.

 

[Saty]

Though it is not well published, you can get a Ghost backplate and use the Zen wing for what they call a Zen ultra light configuration.

Which is what I did…when traveling I move my Zen wing to my Ghost plate. And when I’m local and diving cold I use the Zen stainless steel plate.

Great insight ! Little name change and it makes everything different, i didn't get this detail...

I have Zen Deluxe (I like quick release buckles...) and love it. It's convertible to doubles by changing the wing and bands. Same plate, same harness.

Zen alu plate is thicker (4mm vs 3mm, ready for doubles) and Ghost is about 1.5 lbs lighter. Both have optional removable weight and trim weight pockets.

IMHO Zen is more versatile, it's bladder is made of supposedly better material.

Okay make sens, so i could keep blader+harness with Zen but have to change de rest whereas Ghost i can't reuse.


Very clear, thank you all !!!

 

[Fastmarc]

Which is what I did…when traveling I move my Zen wing to my Ghost plate. And when I’m local and diving cold I use the Zen stainless steel plate.

Why do you do this?

 

[quietlife4me]

Why do you do this?

I want the higher quality wing and the lower travel/packing weight when I’m on a plane.

 

[Mugen Zero]

Though it is not well published, you can get a Ghost backplate and use the Zen wing for what they call a Zen ultra light configuration.

Which is what I did…when traveling I move my Zen wing to my Ghost plate. And when I’m local and diving cold I use the Zen stainless steel plate.

Thank you so much! I've been searching the internet all over the place to see if this was possible. XDeep's website doesn't directly say whether the backplates are interchangable.
I have a custom color Zen Deluxe SS BP, which I really like, but it is a pain to keep below the min weight for luggage when traveling with it. I wanted to not spend money on a whole other BPW rig if I could just swap out the BP and tank adapters for a lighter style (I know I can go ALU, but if I can go even lighter...).

Do you know if this "Zen Ultra light" setup can be achieved by just getting the metal BP, or are the strap/harness holes and such requiring I buy the BP with harness combo. I guess another question would be, I got these custom color pads on the zen deluxe, and would like to keep them if possible...but I think they wont transfer over to the Ghost plate. (I included a pic of my current setup for reference).

 

[quietlife4me]

I purchased the plate and harness only from my local dealer. The harness is totally different. But you can move the deluxe shoulder pads over (if I remember correctly) but the back plate pads I don’t think transfer.