Valves up or down? Considerations...

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Another option. Saves the swapping between regulators of true indie twins but allows for shutting the isolator.

Thanks. Interesting and good to know. I understand this to be a flexible shafts valve knob extension. If so, I would not look at it as a first choice for me (a dangling thing), but good to know.
 
Yeah, I understand. I will just try doubles both ways and SM and find out. There are of course a lot of additional questions I will have a harder time figuring out by myself in the quarry... e.g.: I haven't had a chance yet to see how someone in SM does a fast negative entry from a dinghy in heavy waves... and I like how a completely renoved rig (partially inflated) floats when taken off for getting back in the dinghy. I dont know yet if as a SM diver you then also remove the whole rig. I read about people removing tanks individually... well, if they don't float I don't like that at all. The heavier the sea, the less I like it...
But I got more diving to do before I need to figure that out... And it's to early for me to ask much about SM...
I clip the tanks to my upper d-ring for negative entries, once I'm down I pop the bungies on. Also means I can walk around on the boat ready to drop.

I can then get out with the tanks reclipped, or pass them up to the RIB and get out with only inflated harness on. Means I have a lot of buoyancy if I fall back in which can be an issue when I remove my backmount set in the water unless I'm handing up the belt as well, one more thing to drop....
 
I clip the tanks to my upper d-ring for negative entries, once I'm down I pop the bungies on. Also means I can walk around on the boat ready to drop.

I can then get out with the tanks reclipped, or pass them up to the RIB and get out with only inflated harness on. Means I have a lot of buoyancy if I fall back in which can be an issue when I remove my backmount set in the water unless I'm handing up the belt as well, one more thing to drop....

I understand. Makes sense.

Yeah I always handed up my weight pockets before climbing up. I am just going to claim it is due to forethought (actually true) about not wanting to be negative if going back in and having a BCD bladder valve issue and it is not due to my physique (not true, the guys where worried about their dinghy ladder and w/o the weights it was noticeable easier to "fly in seal like...")

So now I can premeditate answers for when I will be asked "what the heck do you think you're doing" on / at the quarry platform (dock, ... that thing above water), with tanks hanging "in funny ways" pretending I am on a dinghy....
 
@Schwaeble, as you've already gathered, running your tanks inverted is likely invite a lot of criticism. But I absolutely agree with the other sentiments posted here...as long as you can managed your rig, then do what works for you and have fun!
 
There's a user on here who's signature says something like, "Not DIR but DWW, doing what works"

Sounds like a good approach to me.

There are several options to address your original questions, the benefit to sidemount is that it is a standard config so buddies are likely to be able to figure out your rig easily and it adds a few other advantages once you have decided to move away from standard back mount doubles anyway.
 
I have been diving valve-down doubles for years. Lots of links and photos in this thread.
Progressive Equalization

Double 72 Isolation Rig.jpg


I made the protectors from Aluminum. The isolation valve on the manifold points to my butt so I bend my spine forward, which lifts the manifold away from my body, to reach it.
 
I have been diving valve-down doubles for years. Lots of links and photos in this thread.
Progressive Equalization

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I made the protectors from Aluminum. The isolation valve on the manifold points to my butt so I bend my spine forward, which lifts the manifold away from my body, to reach it.

Now why am I thinking I need Voodoo Gas all of a sudden?
Oh wow. Good thread. Somebody was trying to point me to that already, mentioning your "name", but I did not find it yet... I guess I needed to be shown... Thanks Akimbo.
 
There's a user on here who's signature says something like, "Not DIR but DWW, doing what works"

Sounds like a good approach to me.

There are several options to address your original questions, the benefit to sidemount is that it is a standard config so buddies are likely to be able to figure out your rig easily and it adds a few other advantages once you have decided to move away from standard back mount doubles anyway.

Yeah, I can see that as a benefit. I give myself this season (no actual diving trips likely (sob, sob), just some local diving which I hope to use for figuring a few things out. Reading is one thing. Doing another. Sooner or later I'll know which way to "settle".
 
Does anyone else have an unneeded set of valve protectors available? I've wanted to try inverted for a while but haven't been able to justify the cost of the new valve protectors...
 
You could try valve-down without a protector if your doubles' weight is easily managed. Cousteau's earliest rigs were triples that used double-ended cylinders and a manifold top and bottom. One cylinder was the "hard reserve" with the valve on the bottom.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03368/cousteau-tank_3368928b.jpg

Just turn your back plate upside-down, use your long hose, and swim around in a pool or protected body of water or off a boat with a deck hand willing to help. A rocky surf entry would probably be a bad idea though. :)
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/
http://cavediveflorida.com/Rum_House.htm

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