Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[OE2X]

My first post on this board.
Point: new divers should not be doing the type of diving, or ever find themelves in a OOA situation, where a 7' would be more advantagous than the standard 5'.

Semantics - in this thread there is not much difference between a 5' and 7' hose

Why is this not applicable to recreational diving?

 

[htn123]

If I offended you then I am truly sorry. As OE2X suggested my mocking attitude had more to do with the direction the thread was taking than anything else and I did not mean to be insensitive.
I should mention that I applaud you asking this question on the board for the safety of your child and I will be more careful before making such flippant remarks.

I have been out diving all day. I am amazed how this thread has grown.

Webdivebc,
Cool, no harms done. I think I was a little too sensitive about my boy. Take a true gent to apolosize.
And thanks for OE2X quick response too. The board is very luck to have both of you as members.
Charles.

 

[MASS-Diver]

Yes, yes

An instrutor that doesn't know Rock Bottom - the plot thickens *wink*

 

[jonnythan]

I love happy endings

 

[JeffG]

What??????? a 5' is OK, but a 7' isn't, come on, you need to take it up a level.

And since when is it a standard (the 5ft)?...if anything its the temperamental teenager...too short for overheads...too long for sloppy people.

 

[ABQ]

I have found that the 7' hose does take special traning to use. The fact that it is being discussed here states that there is no concensus as to its overall value to new divers, especially to those who use standard recreational equipment, BC, console, etc. If there is a sea change is the way recreational OW is taught that includes the 7' as standard, then so be it.

 

[MASS-Diver]

And since when is it a standard (the 5ft)?....

ditto, that's what confused me so much about his post....

 

[novadiver]

Rock bottom is a simple calculation that allows to leave the bottom with enough gas for you and your buddy to ascend sharing gas and still make all your stops. It's very simple and very basic. You should do a search and learn how to calculate it if you are doing team diving - again it's about as basic as it can get.

I've never heard of anyone having a problem with RB before, strange?

BTW, Rock Bottom for a 95cu' tank on a 0-60' dive would be 500psi, on a 60-100 dive it would be 700psi (in both cases this includes saftey stops). You have a problem with these numbers? Do we need to review the math?

what sac rate? what water temp? 700 psi per diver from 100 fsw = 1400 psi out of 2400? and if it's 700 psi totall there will be no safety stop unless one stops breathing.

or you could calc thirds of the smaller tank. but that would be too easy!

 

[ABQ]

http://www.scubatoys.com/store/Scuba_Equipment.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OctoHose5ft

The 5' does not have to routed, a 7' does.

 

[MASS-Diver]

I have found that the 7' hose does take special traning to use. The fact that it is being discussed here states that there is no concensus as to its overall value to new divers, especially to those who use standard recreational equipment, BC, console, etc. If there is a sea change is the way recreational OW is taught that includes the 7' as standard, then so be it.

I don't dive based on the consensus of the people at PADI. I'm also not an instructor and this thread is not just about "new divers" but all recreational divers. My postion is that the 7' hose isn't too tough to learn how to use and has a lot of advantages for the rec diver. I could care less about a "sea of change".