Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[Green_Manelishi]

Other than salvation there is no one best and only way.

The long hose has its advantages; it also has its disadvantages.

G_M

p.s. yes, I use a backplate, wing and lose hose .. .but I am not DIR.
My knife is too big and I dive solo quite frequently.

 

[novadiver]

then offer your services...

a dangling octo dangling from a trained diver is a hazard, at least we know that the long hose works.

Jason

Do you know why the long hose is donated instead of the back up reg? I didn't think you did. the long hose is donated 1 because it works 2 ( this is the part that most of you should remember) it is because of a thing called roll off. if your left post rolls off in an overhead enviroment, the ooa diver will now be hit twice with ooa. instead the donating diver hits a reg that has been rolled off he/she can reach back and turn the left post on. left post roll off , right post roll on.

As you can see, the length of the hose doesn't mean it works.

history and training. just not here

 

[ABQ]

Do you dive either a 5 foot or 7 foot hose? Have you tried both to know the difference?

I have used both the 5' and 7', and teach both. I've used everything... Folding hoses is advanced technique for specific reason.

 

[detroit diver]

............. I know an agency that teach Rock Bottom even in their newbie course *wink*

Oh no! Not THAT agency! They only take pictures of themselves on the boat.....

 

[htn123]

Ok,
Since I have been watching this thread and posting on it (albeit diff reason ), I will chime in.
I consider myself a newbies, less than 50 dives, but I have been using the 7' long hose right after the 10th dive. And believe it or not, I got an OOA situation the first time I dived with it.
Turned out great. I loved the flexibility of the hose, and also since I do the 7' long, my octo was around my neck. Got it right away when I donated my prim.
For me, it worked great. Will not go back to the short hose. My 11 yr old girl is not on the long hose.... yet. Don't know when she is ready but I get her to do the octo on the bungee. We practice share air and I tell you, she is so quick on graping her octo right on her neck. Make me feel comfort knowing she can get her octo quickly without fumbling behind her.
So my feeling, strickly from a newbie: I loved the 7' hose.

Now just have to get my 10yr boy going with diving .
Charles

 

[MASS-Diver]

Oh no! Not THAT agency! They only take pictures of themselves on the boat.....

LOL, they'll brainwash ya you know, don't look 'em in the eyes.

 

[JeffG]

I was under the impression that 5 ft was standard primary for a DIR single tank setup.

Allowable...The basic premise is that you donate what you breath...and the hose needs to be long enough to share gas comfortably.

That can be accomplished with a variety of hoses. I used to dive a 5' for rec, but went to a 40" because I liked it better.

Although not knowing much outside the volumes of posts on these boards about DIR, I don't know how a single tank can be standard for anything DIR without a pony, but that's a worry for another day.

Ummm...not even close

 

[detroit diver]

I have used both the 5' and 7', and teach both. I've used everything... Folding hoses is advanced techique for specific reason.

Who said anything about FOLDING hoses?????

 

[lamont]

Thanks for helping out Lamont. that's the kind of thing I was talking about.

1) you can't get kicked in the head by an ooa diver on a short hose.( unless you are really trying)

Wasn't actually what I was talking about. My buddy and I had just been communicating, and he did a 180 and took off the other direction and my face got all of his fins. Wasn't an OOA scenario. I just reached up with the left hand and popped my backup in my mouth. I never got comfortable with the procedure taught in PADI training of sweeping back for the reg or of feeling for the hoses by the valve when this happened. I'm not sure that with less than 20 dives I could have executed the PADI version successfully when it happened for real. I'm definitely not sure what would have happened if I'd lost both my reg and my mask at the same time and been on a standard OW rig. I could handle that now because I'm more used to playing "where the f did that hose just go?" when i've fumbled something with my drygloves, and from practice with valve drills. I still really doubt that my PADI BOW training left me prepared to deal with a sudden mask + reg removal. With the long hose, however, cramming the backup reg in your mouth is something that is practically second nature to even an inexperienced diver.

 

[MASS-Diver]

Still waiting...............

Now I could just say "Take THE class" but I'm not like that. I would prefer if you could just search the old threads for rock bottom rather them having me teach the whole concept to you right now.