Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[jonnythan]

How about this:

I find it works better when the OOA diver has 7 feet of hose to play with instead of 3.

I feel better *knowing* my buddy will have a working reg in his face in under 2 seconds of an OOA. He's the paniced one, he can have the one reg we both know is delivering air. If my backups aren't working, we can buddy breathe. #1 priority when buddy goes OOA is to get him gas.

I feel better knowing my backup is right below my chin, instead of *probably* somewhere by my stomach in an octo holder.

I much prefer how a 7 foot hose routes on my body vs a "regular" short primary.

I find that when using a 7 foot hose, turning my head far to the right doesn't push the reg out of my mouth the way it did with a short primary.


The long hose/bungeed backup/donate your primary reg has many merits and is certainly a viable option for the recreational diver.

 

[limeyx]

Here's one onebody hit on . Your at deco hitting 50/50. another diver (that you don't know) signals OOA, which reg does he/she get. That's what I thought. I was tought to give the deco reg. NOT, at which point I have to unclip my primary.

he gets what you are currently breathing. Actually a good example of where the pony option would fall short.

If you donate what you breathe, you not only guarantee that it's a working reg, but that it's the right gas for that depth (unless the donating diver is breathing the wrong reg I guess ...)

 

[limeyx]

You are saying you woud give up your deco reg to an OOA diver? Wow, what about when he finishes his deco and you have extended your hang time because you are now decoing on back gas. I guess you would escort him to the surface then finish that long hang.
You're a saint!

what kind of people are you diving with???

 

[limeyx]

How about this:

I find it works better when the OOA diver has 7 feet of hose to play with instead of 3.

I feel better *knowing* my buddy will have a working reg in his face in under 2 seconds of an OOA. He's the paniced one, he can have the one reg we both know is delivering air. If my backups aren't working, we can buddy breathe. #1 priority when buddy goes OOA is to get him gas.

I feel better knowing my backup is right below my chin, instead of *probably* somewhere by my stomach in an octo holder.

I much prefer how a 7 foot hose routes on my body vs a "regular" short primary.

I find that when using a 7 foot hose, turning my head far to the right doesn't push the reg out of my mouth the way it did with a short primary.


The long hose/bungeed backup/donate your primary reg has many merits and is certainly a viable option for the recreational diver.

now now, who said you were allowed to use logic in this discussion

 

[BigboyDan]

The fact is that 99% of recreational divers will never see a cave underwater, penetrate a wreck, use mixed gasses, or join a cult. They will never use a 7' hose under current teaching. They also use snorkels, BCs, integrated weights, consoles, and find that jet fins are tiring and hurt their feet. Real world, dudes.

 

[lamont]

The fact is that 99% of recreational divers will never see a cave underwater, penetrate a wreck, use mixed gasses, or join a cult. They will never use a 7' hose under current teaching. They also use snorkels, BCs, integrated weights, consoles, and find that jet fins are tiring and hurt their feet. Real world, dudes.

Have those who have been proposing the use of the long hose for rec applications in this discussion once mentioned that it would come in handy if a cave suddenly materialized out of nowhere in the middle of the ocean?

I use a 6' hose because it routes under the can light and around my body nicely, and gives room to move in an OOA scenario. I don't see any need for a 7' hose precisely because I'm not doing cave diving or wreck penetration where single-file swimming might be required. This *is* the real world.

 

[limeyx]

Have those who have been proposing the use of the long hose for rec applications in this discussion once mentioned that it would come in handy if a cave suddenly materialized out of nowhere in the middle of the ocean?

I use a 6' hose because it routes under the can light and around my body nicely, and gives room to move in an OOA scenario. I don't see any need for a 7' hose precisely because I'm not doing cave diving or wreck penetration where single-file swimming might be required. This *is* the real world.

I guess I can kinda see the argument for a 6' hose, but not quite.
It seems (to me) that in an OOA situation you are going to essentially rely on your muscle memory from training/practicing to donate the air (at least until both divers are breathing from a reg). So it seems (to me) to make sense to make as few changes as possible to how you'd donate. So if I can make the 7' hose work in all cases (and it does) then it seems sensible (to me) to remove one variable from the equation (and have less hoses to maintain etc.)

 

[BigboyDan]

Have those who have been proposing the use of the long hose for rec applications in this discussion once mentioned that it would come in handy if a cave suddenly materialized out of nowhere in the middle of the ocean?

Then why the absolute? Why not a ten foot hose?

 

[RiverRat]

The fact is that 99% of recreational divers will never see a cave underwater, penetrate a wreck, use mixed gasses, or join a cult. They will never use a 7' hose under current teaching. They also use snorkels, BCs, integrated weights, consoles, and find that jet fins are tiring and hurt their feet. Real world, dudes.

Sad isn't it? Just because most rec divers don't do overheads etc. doesn't excuse the poor training going on. And there are quite a few rec divers that go on to expand their diving. Light wreck penetration, caverns, blue holes, deeper dives etc. where a decent and streamlined rig, among other things, can really be of benefit. This stuff should be taught from the beginning IMHO.

 

[jonnythan]

Then why the absolute? Why not a ten foot hose?

Because it routes well. If a 7.5 foot hose fits you better, use that instead.