Undergarments, gloves and socks for long cold dives? Normal people need not apply, lol

[Whitrzac]

My setup right now is a fourth element halo + xerotherm. I have a j2 but I haven't noticed much difference with it on.
Gloves are wool liners RefrigiWear Military Style Ragg Wool Glove Liners (Green, Large/X-Large) - PACK OF 12 PAIRS at Amazon Men’s Clothing store
Socks are plain hunting wool socks.

Anything 50*+ is perfect for a 2+hr dive.
I can double up the gloves/socks for colder water, but its not ideal.
Besides adding heat, is there anything thats significantly warmer than what I have?

What is everyone doing when they're looking to do 2+hrs in the 36-45* range?

Weezel extreme vs halo?

I have fourth element hotfoot pro socks as well, they're better for when the ground is cold, but not noticibly better when it's not.
Wool is warmer than the g1 liners.

 

[formernuke]

I'll add fourth element socks on top of my wool socks for cold water. I'm not down that long though. Gloves I'm curious myself.

 

[broncobowsher]

Weezel extreme vs halo?

Halo.

But I would look at adding heat. I know, you said you didn't want to go that route. But I am still suggesting it.

 

[grantctobin]

Bottoms of feet cold (drysuit, 39F / 3.9C water)

I'm trying to dial in my exposure protection for winter Lake Tahoe diving. It gets down to (and is currently) 39F, pretty much from the surface on down. I've taken a number of steps to boost my thermal protection and have successfully done 90 minute dives at this temp without getting too chilly...

scubaboard.com

 

[Marie13]

I'll add fourth element socks on top of my wool socks for cold water. I'm not down that long though. Gloves I'm curious myself.

No two hour dives - yet, but I do this too. Merino wool socks from REI under FE Arctic socks.

Thermolution vest if you’re not running a can light or don’t want to get one.

Merino wool works very well as a base layer.

Fourth Element’s X-Core vest is good for adding warmth without too much bulk.

 

[Jack Hammer]

I dive frequently in 39f/4c waters. Merino wool base layer all around dramatically helps improve core temps. I use Smartwool top & bottoms, Costco wool hiking socks, and army surplus wool glove liners. Over that I use a Santi BZ400 and a
5/10 hood. For 2 hour dives I'll add a heated vest. Keeping your core warm will keep your hands warm.

 

[Ulfhedinn]

I dive frequently in 39f/4c waters. Merino wool base layer all around dramatically helps improve core temps. I use Smartwool top & bottoms, Costco wool hiking socks, and army surplus wool glove liners. Over that I use a Santi BZ400 and a
5/10 hood. For 2 hour dives I'll add a heated vest. Keeping your core warm will keep your hands warm.

Which heated vest do you use?

 

[Jack Hammer]

Which heated vest do you use?

I have Santi BZ200 heated vest and a UWLD 160WH battery and controller. My BZ400 is the heated version so depending on the dive plan I'll either use the BZ400 unplugged, plugged in with or without a vest, or unplugged with the vest plugged in. (The heated suit uses about twice the power as the vest so temps, time, battery life, mood, etc decide what combo gets used)

 

[Ulfhedinn]

I have Santi BZ200 heated vest and a UWLD 160WH battery and controller. My BZ400 is the heated version so depending on the dive plan I'll either use the BZ400 unplugged, plugged in with or without a vest, or unplugged with the vest plugged in. (The heated suit uses about twice the power as the vest so temps, time, battery life, mood, etc decide what combo gets used)

Thanks @Jack Hammer that does seem to offer the most options for very cold water

 

[Jack Hammer]

Thanks @Jack Hammer that does seem to offer the most options for very cold water

I had the heated vest long before I picked up the heated BZ400 from a friend. Since getting that I only add the vest for long dives in very cold water. A friend has both too and added the Santi inflator with 2 leads so he can wear the vest as a backup if there was a fault in the suit or choose to turn on the the vest, heated suit, or both during a dive.