Unbelievable video?

[ScubaSteve]

.......gimmie a break.....

Consider this your break. I believe this is indicative of people who are just looking to stir the pot and IMHO this thread has run its course and then some. I believe everything has been said by those that are legitimately For and Against......

 

[Steve_Dives]

While the father-son video is labeled training, there's no way that was the first time they performed those drills. They probably practiced that in a pool until dad felt it safe to take the kid out.

I'm more annoyed at the sea urchin video. Seems like that qualifies as harassing the sea life.

 

[diver 85]

J.R........try to back your following statement up in a court of law " While I have great respect for training agencies... I am not convinced that they are the ONLY way to learn."........

 

[coldsmoke]

Well, IMHO, stirring the pot is taking someone else's post entirely out of context and criticizing them for something so obviously wrong. Surely you didn't actually think I was saying that I hold my breath during the ascent.

I didn't offer any derisive comments to any of your posts. In fact none of your posts even caught my attention until you started condemning my actions based on unrealistic extrapolations of context.

Have a good night.

Hunter

 

[kadleck]

I just ... try to maintain a regular breathing cycle when my reg is out of my mouth.

Just curious. How do you do that? Gills?

 

[String]

4) Sure, the kid doesn't blow bubbles during reg removal...neither does the "instructor". This implies that the adult is barely capable of the skills necessary for safe diving, much less teaching.

Not every agency says they have to blow bubbles without a reg in their mouth. Holding your breath is only dangerous if ascending.

 

[bowlofpetunias]

:blinking:Interesting thread and I am very impressed how everyone is expressing their different opinions without "flaming".
1) I have to agree that kid looks very comfortable in the water.... as has been stated better than quite a few card carrying divers!
2) He is performing the skills too well (admittedly not perfectly) for this to be his first "training session"
3) Do we "overprotect" kids now days.... Absolutely! What I did (and survived) as a kid was probably too far the other way... but lets find a middle ground
4) Would I do this with my kid? No.... he wasn't comfortable in the water but I taught him to swim when the "Qualified Trainers" I paid to teach him failed to get him into water deeper than his knees! OMG sometimes the parent IS the best teacher because of trust, determination or what ever!
5)I too am more offended by teaching the child to kill living creatures for the entertainment of feeding them to other creatures.

I find the comments on breathing underwater even more interesting! IMHO too many people come out of OW hyperventilating! They get told never hold your breath so many times without being told "breathe normally"! Surely people who are being taught Boyle's Law can grasp the concept of normal breathing = exhale - inhale - natural pause - exhale..... There is a difference between holding your breath and normal breathing/maintaining an open airway!

Of course stressing the importance of exhaling any time you ascend is vital.

I believe someone said they felt continuous breathing couldn't hurt. I disagree. Hyperventilating people often get light headed, pass out or empty their tanks very quickly. None of these situations are beneficial at below 10 M!:blinking:

 

[J.R.]

J.R........try to back your following statement up in a court of law " While I have great respect for training agencies... I am not convinced that they are the ONLY way to learn."........

... remember courts try LAW... not truth... and, as far as I know there is no LAW that requires you be certified by one of the major agencies... the question isn't whether I CAN teach someone to dive without the sanction of a major PRIVATE training agency... the question is am I willing to stand legally liable for anything I may... or may NOT teach...

I'd also point out that a lot of *learning* goes on here on Scubaboard... lot's of people putting out lots of stuff... some with more experience and knowledge than others... and NOTHING stands in the way of Bob Newdiver picking up a piece of this info and implementing it on his next dive in the belief that he heard it from an *expert*... whether we want to acknowledge it or not.. the "exchange of ideas" on this board can and sometimes does constitute *teaching*... and how many REALLY know the expertise of the people they're listening to???

(... as an interesting 'case in point'... check out the thread on LP v. HP tanks in Basic Scuba... we got folks over there talkin' about overfilling tanks by 100%... now THAT is interesting advise/teaching... particularly when the OP was just trying to figure out the difference been an L.P. steel and a H.P. steel... )

 

[J.R.]

You're a DM, hopefully you know the answer to that question.

... yes... but you made the comment so I'm asking YOUR opinon...

(tag... you're it!)

 

[Gombessa]

Just curious. How do you do that? Gills?

Well, yeah...how else would you breathe underwater?

Simply, what that means is that you do not take a huge breath of air right before you remove the reg - as it'll affect your buoyancy and position in the water column. Also, if you remove your reg while you're on an inhale, you don't have to start blowing bubbles like a madman - just time your exhale and rate as you would do normally, as if the reg was still in your mouth. Of course, don't inhale with the reg still out of your mouth.

The point is, that you don't need to be constantly blowing bubbles every second a reg is out of your mouth. It can be a good way to teach new divers because chances are they won't have the situational awareness or presence of mind to keep an open airway on ascent, but just because someone is not blowing bubbles doesn't mean they're doing things wrong.