According to AOL and AP the TSA is going to allow some scissors and tools on flights. The changes were not made public yet. The formal announcement will come Friday. Any bets on how long it will take before all screeners get educated on the new rules and understand them?
TSA changing rules?? More hassles?
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Humuhumunukunukuapua'a
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Interesting...I wonder what the thinking on this is. After 9/11 they outlawed darn near everything on flights, and since then they have been steadily relaxing the policies.
Honestly, why should scissors be allowed on planes? In what way is that different from a box cutter? My guess is that box cutters are still not allowed, but how obtuse is that? Only the specific tool used to commit those specific hijackings is outlawed?
As far as I can tell, most of the safety precautions that still exist since 9/11 are more smoke and mirrors than practical steps. No box cutters because they used box cutters on 9/11. Take off your shoes because a guy used a shoe bomb. I really think the idea should be to try to think *ahead* of the people who would want to cause trouble on planes, not just react once they do.
"Sir, please remove your flip flops"
Honestly, why should scissors be allowed on planes? In what way is that different from a box cutter? My guess is that box cutters are still not allowed, but how obtuse is that? Only the specific tool used to commit those specific hijackings is outlawed?
As far as I can tell, most of the safety precautions that still exist since 9/11 are more smoke and mirrors than practical steps. No box cutters because they used box cutters on 9/11. Take off your shoes because a guy used a shoe bomb. I really think the idea should be to try to think *ahead* of the people who would want to cause trouble on planes, not just react once they do.
"Sir, please remove your flip flops"
ekremer
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/11/30/tsa.rules/index.html
It appears they think the next threat is going to be bombs.
It appears they think the next threat is going to be bombs.
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Humuhumunukunukuapua'a:
Before somebody piles on and adds something useless, may I say...
That says it all.
deco_martini
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Humuhumunukunukuapua'a:
We have secured cockpit doors now and other precautions. Its not as necessary to ban so many things.
And no, the 911 hijackers most likely used Leatherman type tools with a 2-3 inch knife blade inside and not box cutters.
Just more random rule changes to confuse the people and test just how much the public will take.
Look, the bad guys only have to get it right once but TSA has to get it right every time. This is patently impossible and so is a major waste of effort.
Far better to let people have weapons and tools on planes. Then at least they could do something about it if someone starts something on a plane.
Look, the bad guys only have to get it right once but TSA has to get it right every time. This is patently impossible and so is a major waste of effort.
Far better to let people have weapons and tools on planes. Then at least they could do something about it if someone starts something on a plane.
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Agreed. Any future threat to an airliner won't come from hijackers . . . anyone trying to take over a plane today would be met with 200 passengers ready to resist and a flight crew that would land the aircraft ASAP.
Bravo to the TSA for allowing common sense back into the equation.
common sense and TSA are terms that are mutually exclusive trust me i know as most of the time they dont follow there own rules and are a waste of tax payers dollars and arent any better then the ones they replaced.
Pipedope your right on the one time as opposed everytime
heres one for you. why do screeners INSIST that they open film that is in the orginal manufactures packaging that obviously hasnt been tampered with? this is one of just many things that are a pain that i have had to deal with when traveling with camera gear.
and my favorite comment from a TSA screener at RDU (who has a complaint on file from me for several things) is why do you even bother traveling with film, my responce because film is better then digital for the work i do. making these comments while dropping my camera on the ground from being careless.
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Pipedope your right on the one time as opposed everytime
heres one for you. why do screeners INSIST that they open film that is in the orginal manufactures packaging that obviously hasnt been tampered with? this is one of just many things that are a pain that i have had to deal with when traveling with camera gear.
and my favorite comment from a TSA screener at RDU (who has a complaint on file from me for several things) is why do you even bother traveling with film, my responce because film is better then digital for the work i do. making these comments while dropping my camera on the ground from being careless.
FWIW
Tooth
I also wonder, with the money being wasted on screening (that doesn't work) how many armed marshals could be put on flights?
How much more money is being wasted in lost time for all the people being held up in airports for the screening?
If it is so important then why no real accountability and feedback?
The guy at the top wants to cut funding to schools that don't meet standards, why not apply the same idea to TSA?
Frankly, good schools are FAR more important to the safety and security of the American people than TSA.
How much more money is being wasted in lost time for all the people being held up in airports for the screening?
If it is so important then why no real accountability and feedback?
The guy at the top wants to cut funding to schools that don't meet standards, why not apply the same idea to TSA?
Frankly, good schools are FAR more important to the safety and security of the American people than TSA.
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