too cold for OW course dive?

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jchaplain:
paulthenurse:
Ask your LDS about a shorty to wear over your wetsuit. QUOTE]

I assume you mean under? I would look pretty silly having a shorty over a 7mil wetsuit!:shakehead
If it fits under, put it under. If not then over the top. It's all about the neoprene, baby! If you were worried about looking silly you wouldn't be putting on a wetsuit anyways.

P
 
PaulChristenson:
They can always learn to dive in cold water...after they learn to dive...:D
And who is going to teach them?

Not to stir the pot but... How many times have you heard or read someone say something like, "I got certified in (warm water area). Where can I rent gear in MA and go lobster diving?" It's happened to me alot. It seems to me like there are some folks who feel that once certified, they need no additional training. They have the card, they go diving. That's why I said what I did.

As for learning how to do my job, I did learn by doing the emergency on a real person :) The difference was that there was an experienced person with me to help me and train me. The folks I am reffering to do not do/have that.

Another example: I have been a full-time medic for 10 years. I am good at doing all aspects of my job. So if I wanted to be a medic in the desert or the polar ice cap I could. Right? I have my paramedic certification.

Looks like I wore out the handle on this spoon so I will stop. Have a great day.
 
thanks for the advise. so i am going to bring a jug of hot water, warm clothes, hat, gloves, and ask my dive shop about shorty's (which i have no clue what they are). i havent bought gloves yet but i will buy the 5.4 or 6mm ones. i have a 7mm hood. how does this gameplan sound? thanks everybody for the tips.
 
decapoddiver:
And who is going to teach them?

Looks like I wore out the handle on this spoon so I will stop. Have a great day.

You mean you're not going to step up to this exalted task of takng them out...:D :D

decapoddiver:
Not to stir the pot but... How many times have you heard or read someone say something like, "I got certified in (warm water area). Where can I rent gear in MA and go lobster diving?" It's happened to me alot. It seems to me like there are some folks who feel that once certified, they need no additional training. They have the card, they go diving. That's why I said what I did.

Well the discussions about need for additional training are legion on this and other forums...I am a big advocate of continued training, but thats me...NAUI, SSI, PADI, etc. do not require it...There are plenty of people who if they were told oh you need to be trained to dive in NE conditions after they were certified...would start yelling about "Put Another Dollar In"...

But this seems like the start of another thread...:D
 
gurumasta:
thanks for the advise. so i am going to bring a jug of hot water, warm clothes, hat, gloves, and ask my dive shop about shorty's (which i have no clue what they are). i havent bought gloves yet but i will buy the 5.4 or 6mm ones. i have a 7mm hood. how does this gameplan sound? thanks everybody for the tips.
3-finger mitts are warmer than regular gloves but they make it a little harder to work with your gear. Frozen hands are harder to work with than 3-finger mitts, personally I have both so I can have dry gloves for dive 2 or just use the 3-finger mitts for more warmth. You can NEVER have too much scuba gear :biggrin:
Ber :lilbunny:
 
I wear a .5mm isotherm underneath my 7mm wetsuit, which gives me an extra layer of protection. I notice that when diving with others, they tend to get cold, while I don't. (I even have stayed warmer than someone using a drysuit on one dive...go figure!)....you might want to check out the isotherm...it' can't hurt.
 
PaulChristenson:
You mean you're not going to step up to this exalted task of takng them out...:D :D


Oh, I have lots of times:) I just like to be warned and compensated for the job;)

"Wow! Do you have any extra weights? I didn't think that the 7mm suit, gloves, hood and boots would be so bouyant. Can you dress me? Whay can't I see the bottom? Do I need a compass? Can you carry the bag? Scallops are heavy!" :06:
 
Ber Rabbit:
3-finger mitts are warmer than regular gloves but they make it a little harder to work with your gear. Frozen hands are harder to work with than 3-finger mitts, personally I have both so I can have dry gloves for dive 2 or just use the 3-finger mitts for more warmth. You can NEVER have too much scuba gear :biggrin:
Ber :lilbunny:

I agree on never having too much scuba gear but from my personal experience the lobster claws (3 finger gloves) are more of a pain than they are worth. I find they dont provide that much extra warmth for the loss of dexterity. I was out last weekend in sunapee (45F) with a 7mm wetsuit, 5mm hood, and gloves and was fine, my hands stayed decently warm considering i grabbed the pair with the hole in one hand. So all in all definatly do the dive this weekend and make sure you bring a warm (wool) blanket for surface intervals and a thermos of hot chocolate/coffee/tea to warm you up. Have fun!
 
decapoddiver:
Oh, I have lots of times:) I just like to be warned and compensated for the job;)

"Wow! Do you have any extra weights? I didn't think that the 7mm suit, gloves, hood and boots would be so bouyant. Can you dress me? Whay can't I see the bottom? Do I need a compass? Can you carry the bag? Scallops are heavy!" :06:

Okay...consider yourself forewarned for the rest of the season...:D

I'll bet you if a woman looked like Jessica Alba...we would hear a peep out of you...:D :D
Well maybe some heavy breathing...:sofa:

Oh...Oh...I'll help....I'll help....here let me explain how to put on your weight belt...:wave-smil
 
I took my OW course in mid November in Southern Illinois. The water temp was around 40 degrees and I was wearing a 7 mil wetsuit. I was very comfortable and found it to be a great learning experience since everything had to be done wearing gloves which does make simple things such as unhooking and rehooking the LP inflator hose a little more difficult. In the end i found that doing the dives under these conditions made me a better diver and now when in warm water without all that thick gear everything is much easier. Just have fun but if you feel really uncomfortable about diving in those conditions wait till it warms up but i dont think you will have any problems at all.

Daniel
 

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