Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search

[Dan]

Some good info gathered from previous Titan visits to Titanic.

 

[BoltSnap]

Delightful thoughts before going to bed, sweet dreams coming up...

 

[Dan]

Agreed, the cost would be mostly consumables, as you say. And maybe some stuff like overtime wages, or reimbursing the commercial operations which helped out. Anyway, that's not a number I came up with, that's the Post reporting on a defense budget expert's opinion. It would not surprise me if when all is said and done, that number grows or shrinks a bit, especially if a large investigation follows.

The point I'm making is that being mad about the cost of the rescue operation, is just not the right thing to be mad about. The military and the coast guard are very expensive. If we sat down as a society and decided that rescue operations shouldn't be done, yeah, we would all save a couple dollars on our taxes. But we wouldn't be making an improvement -- having these resources ready to deploy as emergencies arise is worth the cost. Akimbo hit the nail on the head a few posts up when he said this:

Some more discussions about the cost:

 

[BlueTrin]

P.S. The Canadians contributed a great deal to the rescue but no one gives them enough credit. Canadians are very nice people (except two Canadians I know).

Is one a bit sassy and one a bit chillier?

Wink twice if you cannot speak publicly

 

[BoltSnap]

Is one a bit sassy and one a bit chillier?

Wink twice if you cannot speak publicly

The Sassy one is really nice and likes me, the chillier one I can't figure it out doesn't give me warm feeling.

 

[Orihimef]

I'd like to think that humans in general are good, I think it's really good that so many people tried to help. It's just sad that it was basically already over when they started. I always wondered if as humans we could some day have an underwater colony or something like that.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

I'd like to think that humans in general are good, I think it's really good that so many people tried to help. It's just sad that it was basically already over when they started. I always wondered if as humans we could some day have an underwater colony or something like that.

That's what Fabien is working on: PROTEUS | FCOLC. It was originally supposed to be built in Crete actually, but now is being built in Curacao.

 

[Dan]

Here is the right way to visit Titanic, done in twenty years ago.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Here is the right way to visit Titanic, done in twenty years ago.

So I skipped around and there was discussion of how the Titanic will eventually completely decompose and collapse. While there was an announcement of 5 years ago that the Titanic would be laser scanned (the reports of a recent scanning is incorrect. The Voyis Observer camera (Observer and Nova Imaging Systems - Voyis) was used to take a massive number of pictures and that was put together to create a photogammetry model. That's not scanning but the media often writes that scuba cylinders are filled with oxygen, so we always have to wonder what did the rushed article author also get wrong.

I was hoping the Voyis Insight Pro (Insight Pro Underwater Laser Scanner - Voyis) be used mounted to either a submersible or a heavy ROV (preferable due to the the Titan disaster - not sure which one is rated to that depth). I have a competitors laser scanner (PL3200UW-LW Subsea Pipeline and Wide Area Subsea Laser Scanner) which is "only" rated to 3200 meters depth (the deepest part of the Aegean is a bit over 3500 meters, so it isn't like a large percentage of the sea floor can't be scanned). ROVs are not as sexy as submersibles/divers, so that reduces the Hollywood aspect of recording such expeditions.

There unfortunately is not any commercial motivation for conducting laser scanning of historical wrecks. Hopefully soon the value of laser scanning for underwater research is proven and more money is donated to such efforts.

So let's keep our fingers crossed that someone with deep pockets will want to fund such an effort.

 

[HalcyonDaze]

So I skipped around and there was discussion of how the Titanic will eventually completely decompose and collapse. While there was an announcement of 5 years ago that the Titanic would be laser scanned (the reports of a recent scanning is incorrect. The Voyis Observer camera (Observer and Nova Imaging Systems - Voyis) was used to take a massive number of pictures and that was put together to create a photogammetry model. That's not scanning but the media often writes that scuba cylinders are filled with oxygen, so we always have to wonder what did the rushed article author also get wrong.

I was hoping the Voyis Insight Pro (Insight Pro Underwater Laser Scanner - Voyis) be used mounted to either a submersible or a heavy ROV (preferable due to the the Titan disaster - not sure which one is rated to that depth). I have a competitors laser scanner (PL3200UW-LW Subsea Pipeline and Wide Area Subsea Laser Scanner) which is "only" rated to 3200 meters depth (the deepest part of the Aegean is a bit over 3500 meters, so it isn't like a large percentage of the sea floor can't be scanned). ROVs are not as sexy as submersibles/divers, so that reduces the Hollywood aspect of recording such expeditions.

There unfortunately is not any commercial motivation for conducting laser scanning of historical wrecks. Hopefully soon the value of laser scanning for underwater research is proven and more money is donated to such efforts.

So let's keep our fingers crossed that someone with deep pockets will want to fund such an effort.

So how exactly would laser scanning improve upon the recent image scan?