Titan LX vs Delta 4, tell me what you think

[mike_s]

I went Saturday and talked to the LDS that sells AL gear and I felt he was treating me like I was dumb, I asked a few questions and I felt like I was bothering him. I guess if I had bought something from him beofre, then he would of spent more time with me. I dont know, but the other LDS that sells oceanic and other companies gear, seem to be more responsive and not any pressure at all. I dont want this to be a deciding factor, I just want good products regaurdless of the company.

well You're right that this should not have to be the deciding factor.

However, this is different per shop all over the country. It's not really brand related, but some certain brands the shops tend to be more "old school" acting like they are doing you a favor charging you full list price just to allow you to buy from there.

You also shouldn't have to have bought something in the past to get good customer service from a shop.

But the simple fact is that it appears that both shops have made a decision on how to treat their customers, which makesthis a deciding factor.

Do you want to have to deal with a shop owner that treats you like "you are dumb" or that "you are bothering him" every time you need something or to get the regulator serviced, or to buy follow on gear?

Or do you want to work with a shop that help you and is responsive to you?

Either brand has a good product, but I think your above post on how you were treated answers which shop you want to buy from.

 

[refinished]

Earlier, someone suggested that the Titan LX was more fairly compared to the GT3/CDX5 in terms of positioning within the brands. That is certainly fair. As an outside data point on this comparison, I prefer the Titan LX to the GT3. I own both and the Titan LX is a much easier and more natural breathing reg. I bought the Oceanic as a replacement for my left post and planned to move the Titan LX to deco duty. I ended up keeping the Titan LX on my back and put the Oceanic on my deco bottle instead. In terms of how natural an inspiration feels, I like the Titan LX better than my RG2500 main reg.

 

[mason417]

Earlier, someone suggested that the Titan LX was more fairly compared to the GT3/CDX5 in terms of positioning within the brands. That is certainly fair. As an outside data point on this comparison, I prefer the Titan LX to the GT3. I own both and the Titan LX is a much easier and more natural breathing reg. I bought the Oceanic as a replacement for my left post and planned to move the Titan LX to deco duty. I ended up keeping the Titan LX on my back and put the Oceanic on my deco bottle instead. In terms of how natural an inspiration feels, I like the Titan LX better than my RG2500 main reg.

What is the RG2500 model? not familar with that model

 

[mike_s]

What is the RG2500 model? not familar with that model

It's a regulator by Dive Rite.

Dive Rite RG2500 Regulator


Note that I think Dive Rite is going to 'end of life' more production of htis regulator (RG2500) and it's being replaced by the RG3000. But you can still buy the RG2500 for now.


Dive Rite RG3000 Regulator

I know someone who had one and he likes it very well.


For the price, between these two regs, get the RG3000. The 1st stage is the same but there were supposed to be some improvements in the 2nd stage.

 

[mason417]

How hard to find a dealer to service Dive Rite? I still think maybe the Delta 4 will have more dealers around. Let me know what you all think?

 

[mike_s]

How hard to find a dealer to service Dive Rite? I still think maybe the Delta 4 will have more dealers around. Let me know what you all think?

without knowing your exact location and what shops you have to chose from, how hard can it be find a dealer local to you to service, THAT YOU TRUST, is is a crap shoot.

There are several dealers around the country that I would trust to service my reg and some that I wouldn't. You're going to run into that anywhere.

ideally it's good to have a dealer you trust near you in case you have a problem, want to buy more, etc. but if you can't there are several that you can ship your reg to and get it back in a reasonable amount of time and still get quality work and good customer service at a reasonable price.

If you want to find what dealers are around you, just use the 'dealer locator' feature on Oceanics and/or Dive Rite (or Aqualungs) websites and put in your local reference/city/zip/etc.

If you can't find one locally you like, just ask here who to use and you'll get several decent opinions of others...

 

[refinished]

Internationally, it can be hard to find a Dive Rite dealer for service. Domestically, no problem. I've had to service the LX on two international trips and it was no issue. I often get asked what a 'Dive Rite' is when I am over seas. Something to consider...

 

[mike_s]

one more note....

I don't think that DR dealers can even get the service kits for at least one of their regulators, the Dive Rite Jetstream Regulator (which I think is a Poseidon 2nd stage). So if that is true, I'd stay away from that one as it seems it would be a hassle to service. (just my opinion and preference. Doesn't mean it's not a good regualtor).

someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Bob Vincent]

For anyone that wants to read the origional post from NOAA I'll put it up here again.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced its new regulator pick. In the June issue of Undercurrent, we wrote about NOAA's new rules and regulations for government divers in response to the death of two Coast Guard divers in Alaska last summer. One major change was giving the boot to all regulators Coast Guard divers had previously used for cold-water diving. After testing of multiple regulators, NOAA found Oceanic's Delta IV to be the most reliable.

"It consistently came up first for meeting all our criteria, and it won't freeze up in cold water," says Lieutenant Eric Johnson of the NOAA Diving Program. The Delta IV is an environmentally sealed diaphragm regulator and its first stage has Oceanic's Dry Valve Technology, designed to stop moisture and contaminants from entering and to prevent corrosion of internal components. NOAA bought 350 of the regulators and now requires its 500 divers to use that model when diving in water temperatures of 50 degrees or less. Johnson says the Navy's experimental dive unit is using them, too. The Delta IV is also commercially available for sport divers; Oceanic's suggested price is $570.

Cold-water divers should definitely invest in a good regulator that won't freeze up underwater. Two people died last April because of that problem. Jason Balsbough and Daniel Frendenberg, both age 21, and Sherry Eads, 43, went diving in a quarry in Gilboa, Ohio, where the water temperature was 38 degrees. Another diver called 911 to report the divers were down. Balsbough had regulator problems but was able to surface by himself. Frendenberg and Eads were too deep and their regulators were too iced for them to breathe.

 

[squidster]

Pick the one that you like the best, they are both great regs.
One thing you may think about is your hose routing.
Both are going to do very well in just about any conditions.
I have a scubapro mk 11 and a oceanic i like them both.
the oceanic reg i have is enviromentaly seald,gt3/cdx5 good reg!
alot less money then the delta4.