caseybird
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Time to eliminate the tip system, regardless of industry. Pay people what they are worth.
Good luck on this.
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Time to eliminate the tip system, regardless of industry. Pay people what they are worth.
The difference is that most people don't feel the need to tip a doctor or lawyer - allowing them and/or their employers to keep wages high. In other fields, people do feel the need to tip - allowing their employers to keep their wages low, under the theory that "maybe the customers will make it up themselves."I feel there is a difference between a doctor, lawyer , and a professional in the dive industry. In wages particuliarly.
I do to. I continue to do business with them in the future.But, I feel if some one goes above the norm to make my experience pleasureable, then I reward this. It is a way to say thank you.
The problem would be easily solved, if consumers didn't allow it to go on.Good luck on this.
Yes, if you consider definition 2 only. In the context of this discussion, definition 1 is the relevant one, although the low pay probably has a lot to do with definition 2.Isn't a "professional" anyone who gets paid for performing in a particular line of work?
-noun
1. a person who belongs to one of the professions, esp. one of the learned professions.
2. a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs: a golf professional.
This is a lot of typing where a cut and paste of definition 2 would have sufficed. I recommend dictionary.com.There are amateur golfers (some of whom may be better than some professionals). There are amateur archaeologists (many of whom have made important discoveries).There are amateur astronomers (some of whom have made very important discoveries too). There are amateur divers (some of whom have better skills than professional divers). There are amateur poker players (some of who have made millions of dollars while playing poker). There are amateur sex providers (many of whom are better than the pros, despite having much less experience).
There are professional dentists.
There are professional software developers.
There are professional waiters/waitresses.
There are professional hair dressers.
There are professional instructors.
There are professional cab drivers.
There are professional poker players.
There are professional dry cleaners.
There are professional sex workers.
There are professional diving instructors.
Um...not everyone takes such a constrained, limited approach to the world.I recommend dictionary.com.
So, in other words, in that region, they're making what one can consider "good money" by local standards....This is a job that actually gets slightly higher wages than the average (of about 5-10 US dollars a day...
I dunno. I never suggested anyone should go to law school.What chance is there of law school?
Yes, it is cultural and one culture isn't absolutely right or wrong.
Calling a dive instructor a professional is just using a word to justify your cheapness in most tropical locations!
In this case, it is you who is limiting yourself--to definition 2, when definition 1 is clearly the more relevant one. If you want to start a thread to discuss whether dive instructors get paid or not, then definition 2 will be relevant. Can you see that now? Reread it a couple of times if you have to.Um...not everyone take a constrained, limited approach to the world.
So, you're agreeing that someone who is a dive instructor is "a person who belongs to one of the professions"....In this case, it is you who is limiting yourself--to definition 2, when definition 1 is clearly the more relevant one.
No, quite the contrary. But that is the basis for this discussion, rather than whether a dive instructor is "a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs," which, I think, we can all agree on.So, you're agreeing that someone who is a dive instructor is "a person who belongs to one of the professions"....