raxafarian
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you purchased one knowing that people consider them worthless?
To put it simply:
They don't hold enough air.
To put it simply:
They don't hold enough air.
The great Spare Air / SpareAir topic
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raxafarian
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David,
To me it sounds as if you have much more basic issues than your spare air. I'd suggest getting certified.
To me it sounds as if you have much more basic issues than your spare air. I'd suggest getting certified.
raxafarian
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt... "ran out of O2"... I ASSumed he meant air.
But now that I re-read it, it seems like he wants to use the spare-air on the surface?
Or hold his breath?
R
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Try mounting the holder on your tank strap on either side you can conviently reach. Spare air goes in the holder pointing downward and is held in place by the mouthpiece cover. Use the spare air leash or similiar cord to insure you do not loose it. Reach back, grab the spare air by its regulator and pull. One caution: check after giant stride and occasionally during dive to make sure it is full. You should be able to feel the indicator.
While there are more capable solutions to redundent air supply, spare air is probably the simplist in terms of travel and fills. I still feel that a spare air is better than no air in many situations. But not if you use it to justify risks you would not otherwise take.
While there are more capable solutions to redundent air supply, spare air is probably the simplist in terms of travel and fills. I still feel that a spare air is better than no air in many situations. But not if you use it to justify risks you would not otherwise take.
Awap,
Scubaboard can be a rough crowd, dont take it personally, there is a lot to learn at first but if you stick with it, it will start to make sense. I feel sorry for you because someone has convinced you to purchase a $300 paperweight. Not only is a spare air more or less useless, at least in my opinion, because it has so little capacity, it appears that you are attempting to use one as a substitute for basic diving skills.
A bail out bottle, either a Spare Air or Pony, is not a good solution. You should first focus on learning good gas management, buoyancy control, and buddy skills. While devices such as spare air may appear appealing as a way to buy safety there is no substitute for the safety that comes with good skills and experience.
This sounds like poor gas management, poor buoyancy control, and poor buddy skills!
Gas Management -- Start up the ascent line with enough gas not only for yourself but also for your buddy to safely make it to the surface including a safety stop.
Buoyancy Control -- Unless there is a strong current there is no reason to hang onto the ascent line (other than to compensate for poor buoyancy control) just use it as a visual reference.
Buddy Skills -- If you ran out of gas on the way up you can share air from your buddy, that is assuming that your buddy properly started up the ascent line with enough gas not only for yourself but also for your buddy to safely make it to the surface including a safety stop.
The first time we dove as buddies and you came up without any gas left we would have a serious discussion on how I expect you to maintain enough air to safely get us both to the surface, just as I do for you. The second time would be the last time we dove together.
If you cannot breath or snorkel on the surface with the current sea conditions you have no business diving under those conditions. What would you do if the boat wasnt there when you surfaced? Or if you had an emergency and had to surface 200 yards from the boat?
My advice would be that if there is anyway you could get your money back do so. The money would be much better spent on additional training and experience.
Mike
P.S. Many of the people on ScubaBoard have forgotten what it was like to be a new to diving and come across as harsh. For the most part though they mean well and you can learn a ton from them for free! Dont let them discourage you, keep asking questions.
Scubaboard can be a rough crowd, dont take it personally, there is a lot to learn at first but if you stick with it, it will start to make sense. I feel sorry for you because someone has convinced you to purchase a $300 paperweight. Not only is a spare air more or less useless, at least in my opinion, because it has so little capacity, it appears that you are attempting to use one as a substitute for basic diving skills.
A bail out bottle, either a Spare Air or Pony, is not a good solution. You should first focus on learning good gas management, buoyancy control, and buddy skills. While devices such as spare air may appear appealing as a way to buy safety there is no substitute for the safety that comes with good skills and experience.
This sounds like poor gas management, poor buoyancy control, and poor buddy skills!
Gas Management -- Start up the ascent line with enough gas not only for yourself but also for your buddy to safely make it to the surface including a safety stop.
Buoyancy Control -- Unless there is a strong current there is no reason to hang onto the ascent line (other than to compensate for poor buoyancy control) just use it as a visual reference.
Buddy Skills -- If you ran out of gas on the way up you can share air from your buddy, that is assuming that your buddy properly started up the ascent line with enough gas not only for yourself but also for your buddy to safely make it to the surface including a safety stop.
The first time we dove as buddies and you came up without any gas left we would have a serious discussion on how I expect you to maintain enough air to safely get us both to the surface, just as I do for you. The second time would be the last time we dove together.
If you cannot breath or snorkel on the surface with the current sea conditions you have no business diving under those conditions. What would you do if the boat wasnt there when you surfaced? Or if you had an emergency and had to surface 200 yards from the boat?
My advice would be that if there is anyway you could get your money back do so. The money would be much better spent on additional training and experience.
Mike
P.S. Many of the people on ScubaBoard have forgotten what it was like to be a new to diving and come across as harsh. For the most part though they mean well and you can learn a ton from them for free! Dont let them discourage you, keep asking questions.
Judging from his post, David is not certified. He needs to take a SCUBA class. I'll be happy to offer advice to help him through the class, I will not offer advice to help him skip it.
R
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Judging from his profile and previous posts, he appears to be a new diver with some diving experience and a few questions.
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