sheck33
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How do you separate a pony that is attached to your HP100?
I'd like to see that setup.
But again, pony bottles are not the solution for lacking airmanagement skills.
The great Spare Air / SpareAir topic
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How do you separate a pony that is attached to your HP100?
I'd like to see that setup.
But again, pony bottles are not the solution for lacking airmanagement skills.
sheck33
Contributor
LOL, relax, you'll be fine :mean:
timhernandez
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Folks,
I am in the process of determining what I want to do for an alternative, secondary air source. I have yet to need one but, like a parachute, not something I want to suddenly need, and not have.
My questions are:
1. Does anyone use a "Spare Air" brand ? do you like it, etc. ?
2. If no to 1, what do you use for your secondary ?
All info is welcome and, as always, thanks for the feedback.
-T
I am in the process of determining what I want to do for an alternative, secondary air source. I have yet to need one but, like a parachute, not something I want to suddenly need, and not have.
My questions are:
1. Does anyone use a "Spare Air" brand ? do you like it, etc. ?
2. If no to 1, what do you use for your secondary ?
All info is welcome and, as always, thanks for the feedback.
-T
Soggy
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Please do a search on this subject. There have been 8 million threads on it and the overall concensus is that it is a useless piece of garbage for diving.
Do some math and you will find out that 3cft of air will not get you to the surface from any depth where redudancy is worthwhile. It is *not* a redundant source of air.
Do some math and you will find out that 3cft of air will not get you to the surface from any depth where redudancy is worthwhile. It is *not* a redundant source of air.
Spare air is way too expensive and unreliable in my opinion...
There is another thread going on about a pony right now...to which I am also opposed.
Your secondary air source should be your buddy. There is not good substitue for your buddy...in single tank diving.
If you are genuinely concerned about having a fully redundant air source, doubles are the way to go.
There is another thread going on about a pony right now...to which I am also opposed.
Your secondary air source should be your buddy. There is not good substitue for your buddy...in single tank diving.
If you are genuinely concerned about having a fully redundant air source, doubles are the way to go.
cyklon_300
Contributor
'clueless newbie diver' like having a SA clipped off somewhere.
You don't want one. Honest.
You don't want one. Honest.
If you really think you need a redundant air source (and you may - don't listen to the idgits who say "dive with a REAL buddy" - aka "DIR") then buy a REAL redundant air source.
My personal minimum is a 19cf pony, slung like a stage bottle. On any NDL dive that WILL get me to the surface at a SANE ascent rate, and SHOULD permit me a safety stop.
A 30 or 40 slung is even better, and doubles as a light deco bottle if you get into that kind of diving, but those start to get pretty big for NDL diving. The 19cf is a nice size and if slung it ride out of the way when you're actually diving.
My personal minimum is a 19cf pony, slung like a stage bottle. On any NDL dive that WILL get me to the surface at a SANE ascent rate, and SHOULD permit me a safety stop.
A 30 or 40 slung is even better, and doubles as a light deco bottle if you get into that kind of diving, but those start to get pretty big for NDL diving. The 19cf is a nice size and if slung it ride out of the way when you're actually diving.
Soggy
Contributor
Pug is right. Welcome aboard. T and I aren't always this pissy
However, the Spare Air is an overpriced piece of equipment that has no place in diving, IMO.
Sorrry if I came off rude...I got my butt whipped last night at darts...and today I'm losing a battle with a program....plus...we ran out of coffeee at work...I think I'm going home soon.
But anyway...
For those of us that dive with buddies (and no genesis...my buddies have NEVER had training other than NAUI) I don't feel there's a need for a pony...you have a buddy...no need for extra crap
If you want to dive solo or make a dive that might warrant you being far far away from your buddy....that's your perogative...just make sure to get something big enough...or go a route that offers enough gas to get your behind safely back to the surface.
But anyway...
For those of us that dive with buddies (and no genesis...my buddies have NEVER had training other than NAUI) I don't feel there's a need for a pony...you have a buddy...no need for extra crap
If you want to dive solo or make a dive that might warrant you being far far away from your buddy....that's your perogative...just make sure to get something big enough...or go a route that offers enough gas to get your behind safely back to the surface.
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