The future of this forum

[JeffG]

Jeff, I usually don't take you too seriously

Then don't start now.

 

[MonkSeal]

Then don't start now.

Ok

 

[nadwidny]

I really don't understand these statements. DIRX is DIR friendly, no-trolling place where you can find like-minded divers and valuable opinions.

Yeah, like that guy they call Chasey. Sooo valuable.

Several GUE instructors contribute there, WKPP and EKPP people post also. I see no reason for calling such site "a joke".

Go to the right rich/lean left thread from last month for an example.

 

[JeffG]

Yeah, like that guy they call Chasey. Sooo valuable.

Yes...The only DIR Inspiration Village Idiot around...LOL

 

[rjack321]

Actually I've learned alot about how NOT to do stuff from Chasey. Things I don't see other people doing in my sphere and my curiousity would force me look up on Techdiver archives, since Mount isn't active anywhere I frequent

Chasey was invited to that site to keep people thinking and justifying their methods and not just accept the Gospel from High Springs. I agree it gets a bit old sometimes though.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

And yet we continue to grow by leaps and bounds and attract those wishing to discuss diving. In fact one of the most common comments is just how much information we have here.

That is true ... it is also true that a great deal of the most useful information was posted by people who no longer use this board (recent examples already given).

Not trying to be judgmental, but simply making an observation ... the board ... this forum in particular ... once was dominated by very experienced divers with a great deal of knowledge. Now it's dominated by new divers and those who have been diving for years, but only dive a few times a year. Different demographics lead to different emphasis and discussions ... and the more experienced divers get tired of being constantly "corrected" by someone with loads of Internet "knowledge" but very little practical experience to place it in context.

Why do you think the GUE instructors who once were regulars here no longer bother?

The signal to noise ratio here is simply excellent and especially so in this forum. Unfortunately, quite often when people disagree, it is quite common for either of them to consider the other one as just creating "noise". It's a fairly normal human reaction, to dismiss those who do not agree with us but it has little to do with reality. We have tried to create an atmosphere of tolerance and also provide special areas where we offer special protection for the intolerance of others.

It could be much better if the staff didn't allow certain posters to turn into disciplinary "projects" ... people who are clearly not coming here to discuss the DIR way of doing things simply shouldn't be allowed to post here. There's a huge difference between disagreeing with someone and posting inflammatory nonsense simply to annoy. There are "regulars" in this forum who clearly violate the intent of this forum regularly. Yet they continue to post here ... and when their posts are reported, nothing happens.

It may enhance the "hit count" of the board ... which is the measure you use to show "growing by leaps and bounds" ... but does nothing to enhance the quality of available information ... quite the opposite, to my concern ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[rjack321]

Those of us with DIR training and really diving that way have much better DIR resources to draw upon than this board. Former instructors and mentors are the places I go for "DIR questions". They actually do come up from time to time. And no they don't have squat to do with Air2s and dual bladders. I'm only a middlin' level GUE diver (Tech1 and Cave1) but there's no way I'd bother coming here for a DIR answer to any of my issues. Too much BS, not enough people here with sufficient (DIR) training and experience to understand the issue. The irony is that even with my middlin' level of GUE training, I'm probably on the short list of the "more qualified" dozen or so DIR divers trying to answer questions here. Being (only) T1/C1 and one of the more experienced resources is downright laughable. Of course you don't even need to pass DIRF to be an expert here.

 

[The Chairman]

It could be much better if the staff didn't allow certain posters to turn into disciplinary "projects"

There have not been that many reports Bob, Don't blame the staff if you aren't reporting the problem. This is as much YOUR community as it is anyone's. If you don't alert us to the problems then we won't know they exist. Heck, I found this thread because of a reported post, and it appears that poster has stopped posting back here. I wonder why?

It may enhance the "hit count" of the board ... which is the measure you use to show "growing by leaps and bounds" ... but does nothing to enhance the quality of available information ... quite the opposite, to my concern ...

Dang Bob... I couldn't tell you our "hit" count if I wanted to. But that's a nice dig at me. I count users and we just passed 80,000 for the second time in a month! I count users on line and we seem to be doing just fine there as well. I just don't buy into your "gloom and doom". Rather than just complain about this and that, use the report button. It's not nearly as dramatic as complaining but it acheives more.

 

[ArcticDiver]

Looks like others have come around to what I said in my original posts. While that is somewhat gratifying that process illustrates the fog this forum is in. Probably the best thing that can come out of these discussions is a clearer understanding of what this forum, and SB as a whole, is and is not.

 

[Meng_Tze]

Those of us with DIR training and really diving that way have much better DIR resources to draw upon than this board. Former instructors and mentors are the places I go for "DIR questions". They actually do come up from time to time. And no they don't have squat to do with Air2s and dual bladders. I'm only a middlin' level GUE diver (Tech1 and Cave1) but there's no way I'd bother coming here for a DIR answer to any of my issues. Too much BS, not enough people here with sufficient (DIR) training and experience to understand the issue. The irony is that even with my middlin' level of GUE training, I'm probably on the short list of the "more qualified" dozen or so DIR divers trying to answer questions here. Being (only) T1/C1 and one of the more experienced resources is downright laughable. Of course you don't even need to pass DIRF to be an expert here.

I think often a feeling of self importance is behind posting, being an expert or wanting to show strength of mind in arguing with set mindsets.

Of course this can now also apply this this post in itself.