Laser
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BigBoB:
You are a tad more experienced than the subject.
TDI VS PADI as a path to 130 feet plus.
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You are a tad more experienced than the subject.
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Quetzal
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1. I think you are looking at it in the wrong way. In order to achieve 300' dives you'll need a boatload of training. That means an instructor that can teach, and assess you. The instructor is way more important than the agency. Start asking around here, maybe on TDS, or elsewhere who has had experiences with instructors that you might want to take instruction from. It's not a race, and it's not a place for half assed training.
I realize I will need a lot of traing and 300' like I said it's a long range goal but I believe goals are very important ie. the lodge vs a just getting to 300' which I personally don't feel would be a a valid goal in itself.
2. Where are you now with your diving?
TDI AOW and SSI Nitrox
3. How many dives?
67
4. Diving bp/wing? doubles?
Wing no back plate yet or doubles. I do carry a 30 cu ft pony though when I get over 60', for my own reasons.
That's a lofty goal, but serious training is required -- not the fastest way to get the cert.
5. Where do you live?
Greenville SC
Many people travel many miles for tech training.
6. Are you willing to travel?
Definatly, but would like to have traing that fits in w/ the local divers who are mainly TDI & PADI.
Your question, in my mind ,is what's wrong with the industry today.
Please explain? If you assumed that by my being enticed by a course that gets to the meat more quickly you thought I was impatient, well I'm not this is a long term goal and way to spend time with people that I enjoy being with. The getting to the meat issue, to me, is a safety issue. The sooner I learn to or not to do something the sooner I don't make that mistake and in diving the mistake could be my last one.
Thank you all for your comments. And please continue.
I realize I will need a lot of traing and 300' like I said it's a long range goal but I believe goals are very important ie. the lodge vs a just getting to 300' which I personally don't feel would be a a valid goal in itself.
2. Where are you now with your diving?
TDI AOW and SSI Nitrox
3. How many dives?
67
4. Diving bp/wing? doubles?
Wing no back plate yet or doubles. I do carry a 30 cu ft pony though when I get over 60', for my own reasons.
That's a lofty goal, but serious training is required -- not the fastest way to get the cert.
5. Where do you live?
Greenville SC
Many people travel many miles for tech training.
6. Are you willing to travel?
Definatly, but would like to have traing that fits in w/ the local divers who are mainly TDI & PADI.
Your question, in my mind ,is what's wrong with the industry today.
Please explain? If you assumed that by my being enticed by a course that gets to the meat more quickly you thought I was impatient, well I'm not this is a long term goal and way to spend time with people that I enjoy being with. The getting to the meat issue, to me, is a safety issue. The sooner I learn to or not to do something the sooner I don't make that mistake and in diving the mistake could be my last one.
Thank you all for your comments. And please continue.
I have to reask the question - why do you want/need to go deeper than 130ft? At only 67 dives, you might not have explored all there is at much shallower depths, might not have the skills necessary to complete such deep dives or the experience - narcosis can do strange things to you, i still get pretty narc'd at 100ft, and certainly by 120ft on nitrox. All i can say is that i know i dont have this at 132 dives or whatever my tally is now.
So what do you hope to achieve and why?
So what do you hope to achieve and why?
Laser:
We frequently dive Great Lakes wrecks between 150' and 175' on air. We don't make bad decisions, have the proper training for what we do, never feel "awful" after a dive and are able to see some of the most spectacular shipwrecks in the world. I will admit our memory afterward would be a little sharper on trimix, but experience makes a difference with your ability to deal with narcosis. Below 180' we would use trimix, but that adds a whloe different dimension to your dive.
H2Andy
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quetzal, a suggestion.
since you live in South Carolina, within easy reach of many wrecks in recreational
depths, why not start your foray into tech diving by way of wreck diving?
you can get some training in overhead environments, perfect your techniques
shallow, and then move on to learning decompression, trimix, and so on.
67 dives is a bit on the "new" side, and while you're right to think ahead, maybe
you should think short-to-middle range as you venture into the tech world.
there's plenty of time. get your basic skills down pat, get into wreck diving,
get yourself squared away for tech.
since you live in South Carolina, within easy reach of many wrecks in recreational
depths, why not start your foray into tech diving by way of wreck diving?
you can get some training in overhead environments, perfect your techniques
shallow, and then move on to learning decompression, trimix, and so on.
67 dives is a bit on the "new" side, and while you're right to think ahead, maybe
you should think short-to-middle range as you venture into the tech world.
there's plenty of time. get your basic skills down pat, get into wreck diving,
get yourself squared away for tech.
OP
Quetzal
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Yes it looks like there is one in Atlanta thats 3 hours from here.Tavi:
I see by your profile you just finished Tech classes w/NAUI what did you think of them? Did you choose them because you are a NAUI instructor or for other reasons?
OP
Quetzal
Contributor
While I do get to the coast as much as possible I live 3 1/2 hours from there and but only 30 mins from a nice lake with 30' plus Viz and 300' plus depth. There is only so much to look at in a lake no matter what the Viz.H2Andy:
But you do have a good argument. I just wish I was right on the water like you.
Laser
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dab:
What wrecks are you diving?
I can only talk about the course that I took like the TDI Advanced Nitrox/Deco procedures and the ANDI Tech Trimix diver. Now if I had the chance to start over I would go for the ANDI courses, just because it teach the use of Trimix right from the start. But if you don't have an ANDI facility around where you live, take the TDI one.
It is a good course and a good introduction to tech diving. The course will qualified you to dive to 150fsw, that doesn't mean you have to dive that deep on air.
The GUE recreational Triox qualified you to go 120fsw that not very deep, but I must admit that I have done 120fsw with the use of some trimix when doing wreck penetration and it help. But if you want to go the GUE way I would take the DIR F and then the Tech 1.By the way I'm sure all agencies have good program, of course it all depend on the instructor.
It is a good course and a good introduction to tech diving. The course will qualified you to dive to 150fsw, that doesn't mean you have to dive that deep on air.
The GUE recreational Triox qualified you to go 120fsw that not very deep, but I must admit that I have done 120fsw with the use of some trimix when doing wreck penetration and it help. But if you want to go the GUE way I would take the DIR F and then the Tech 1.By the way I'm sure all agencies have good program, of course it all depend on the instructor.
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