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Scheherazade

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I'm new to this forum and am new to snorkeling. I've combed the Internet for answers to my questions and would very much appreciate thoughts. Here's my situation: Other than trying out a mask (and no fins) in shallow water in Destin, FL last summer, I have no snorkeling experience because I did not learn to swim as a child. As a woman in my late-30's with my share of fat, I could float okay in salt water, of course, but I left snorkeling to the swimmers in my group who I did not think would want to babysit (or worse save) me.

A bit after I returned home, I decided that I liked being in the water well enough to sign up for swimming lessons at the local indoor pool where I learned the basics of buoyancy, floating, exhaling with my face in the water, and gliding on front and back before learning the flutter kick, elementary backstroke, and the basics of freestyle and regular backstroke. (I'm still not good at the last two.) Like many adult learners, I have had my share of challenges especially in the very beginning from feeling cold despite the temperature control, inflexible ankles, variable coordination, and difficulty keeping good body position while side breathing. However, as my teacher took back my kickboard a couple weeks ago, he let slip that I am “not the worst in the class!” Heehee. High praise indeed. I'm probably one of the most persistent, though, because this week, he asked if I have been practicing. And I do practice – I try to get in a pool to increase my feel for the water if nothing else 3 times a week.

My boyfriend booked a trip for Ambergris Caye, Belize for mid-June. That gives me a month to really try. In 2 weeks, the local outdoor pools may open, too, which might offer more opportunities to get in a pool, even for half an hour or an hour at a time. I would like to go to Mexico Rocks with my boyfriend, who is a strong swimmer, and a tour group. I've read various opinions from vacationers about “non-swimmers” and “weak swimmers” doing these tours and getting help from their guides, which is meant to be encouraging. But think of this: if that's the case, it's possible that when I go, I am “not the worst swimmer” on the tour and that other people need more help than me! Also, sometimes equipment doesn't work or conditions aren't ideal; I don't expect people on cruises to post about that on trip advisor (no offense to those on those boards intended).

My question is what specific swimming and snorkel skills should I focus on for the next month to prepare myself. Many people reading this have been swimming so long that they can't remember a time when they did not know how to swim. But please, try to think back to when you saw an adult learner or child at a pool or snorkeling. Or else, think of a time, when conditions weren't perfect or everything did not go right, what did the beginner need to know? Do I need to be able to tread water? Should I practice kicking a lot in the deep end? Should I practice entering and exiting the water? Sorry if this is an obvious question.

Maybe I should add that despite my challenges, one problem I do not really have is embarrassment about learning late or looking silly. I will happily use a vest, wetsuit, or any other device or stay close to or even on the boat in poor conditions. I am open to any suggestions and am especially about increasing my skills. Sorry for the long post and thank you so much for reading!
 
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Learn to swim well and become comfortable in the water. When you have accomplished those goals, then start practicing snorkeling, using your legs and fins to move through the water, and work really hard to stop using your hands to maneuver. Believe it or not, it takes time to unlearn using your hands.
 
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Thank you all for your advice. Kevrumbo, while I've never seen myself swim, I am certain my freestyle looks nothing like that. I looked up total immersion and started practicing swimming on my side to see if I can achieve better roll.

Altamira, I am still working on learning to swim well and will look forward to trying drills with just my legs. Sometimes I practice kicking with my arms at my side but I don't get far before I have to breathe.

Vincent54 - would it be silly to use both a shorty wetsuit and a vest? I get cold easier than other people even in warm water but I also think a vest would help me float better and let other people spot me more easily. Maybe I'm being silly.
 
Hi Scheherazade,

If you're truly not embarrassed by learning late and/or looking silly, please consider joining a "masters swimming" group there in Virginia assuming they have a practice near you. It looks (to me) like they have a pretty strong presence in the larger cities and towns. If you live in a rural or remote area, then I understand options would be tough.

My hubby buddy thinks me a bit odd with a tendency to overdo things (he'd be correct). But, there is a huge masters swimming presence here. Some participate for fitness, others compete. "Masters" is an age definition (over college age) not a skills or achievement designation. :D

I've been going for a month now, after taking adult lessons to try and make sure my fundamentals weren't too wonky. I stick to the "slow" lane and get a huge benefit. It's a circle swim and you can work on your fundamentals (slowly) and/or get as much of a workout as you could ever want. The use of toys is encouraged, so you can get a ton of practice with your zoomers (fins) if that's what you want.

There is also a fab social component to the group, if you're interested. Just like scuba, nice folks. :) Anything you can reasonably do to increase your aquatic comfort and build up your swimming strength in a controlled manner is a good thing.

Have fun!
 
I have never been a strong swimmer but took some individual lessons last winter, and practiced a lot, and it has made a huge difference. I am in my 50s.

I would like to go to Mexico Rocks with my boyfriend, who is a strong swimmer, and a tour group. I've read various opinions from vacationers about “non-swimmers” and “weak swimmers” doing these tours and getting help from their guides, which is meant to be encouraging. But think of this: if that's the case, it's possible that when I go, I am “not the worst swimmer” on the tour and that other people need more help than me! Also, sometimes equipment doesn't work or conditions aren't ideal; I don't expect people on cruises to post about that on trip advisor (no offense to those on those boards intended).

I've been on a couple of snorkeling trips with tours. One was part of a cruise, one not.

Typically the people on these tours are not experienced snorkelers or freedivers. One of the tours I was on included someone who had never tried to swim. They jumped in, got out, and called it good, but the point is that if you can anything that remotely resembles a forward crawl, you'll at least be in the middle of the pack.

My question is what specific swimming and snorkel skills should I focus on for the next month to prepare myself.

My advice would be to get some small swim fins, and swim laps in the pool. The reason for this is it will allow you to build some strength and flexibility in your legs and ankles. If you go out snorkeling for a day, and haven't been swimming with fins much before that, you're going to be sore.

I do this myself to stay in shape for diving.

You can do it with a mask and snorkel, too, if you want. Most pools will allow that in their lap lanes.

Do I need to be able to tread water?

It's a good safety skill, but you probably aren't going to use it while snorkeling. You'll have fins, a vest, and surface support.

Should I practice entering and exiting the water? Sorry if this is an obvious question.

If it's difficult for you I suppose it wouldn't hurt. On the tours they do their best to make it easy and have guides there to help.

Maybe I should add that despite my challenges, one problem I do not really have is embarrassment about learning late or looking silly. I will happily use a vest, wetsuit, or any other device or stay close to or even on the boat in poor conditions. I am open to any suggestions and am especially about increasing my skills. Sorry for the long post and thank you so much for reading!

The guides will give you a vest and expect you to use it unless the guides are extremely impressed with your swimming ability and don't think they'll get caught.

Not really related to your post, but my advice would be to get a rashguard and wear it to keep the sun off. Sunscreen doesn't get the job done when your in the water snorkeling all day.
 
Can I make a suggestion? If you want to learn to snorkel (dive), then you need to gain practice with the gear itself. The swim practice and lessons are great for establishing a certain level of comfort, some airway control etc., but snorkeling is really quite different than swimming.

The mask prevents or inhibits breathing from the nose, the snorkel makes breathing much easier and eliminates the complexities of coordinating the inhalation and exhalation cycle along with arm and head/neck rotation. Swimming freestyle with even a beginners stroke takes a lot more coordination than snorkeling. It sounds to me like you are now comfortable in the water and there is no need to further delay learning to snorkel.

A snorkel and mask makes the basic breathing much easier. Of course you will need to learn to clear water from a snorkel and this is a different skill, but I think you ought to start working on this essential skill as soon as you are comfortable.

The fins are also somewhat of an issue. Swimming without fins generally requires a much faster kick stroke than used when snorkeling. So perfecting your swimming kick is not really necessary for snorkeling.

It sounds as if you are highly motivated to succeed in this endeavor and I have no doubt that you will, but getting decent snorkeling equipment that you are comfortable with and fits you will go a long way toward having fun when you finally graduate from the pool to open water. Showing up on vacation and getting some random mask and fins and snorkel that might be uncomfortable or ill-fitting would be disappointing - especially after all the work you are putting into it.

We offer a snorkeling package of quality equipment that I have assembled that might work great for you. We only sell direct, with no dive shop mark-up - so my prices are really amazing.

Take a look at this package, if after trying it out, you find that it does not fit or is uncomfortable, drop me a line and I will authorize a full refund (and pay for return shipping).

I know the long freedive fins may "look" intimidating, but they are extremely efficient and will push you along at a good pace without any significant exertion. The snorkel is a very simple freedive type snorkel with no valves or flaps or other "features" that most freedivers would rather do without.

A few pool sessions with the proper gear and possibly someone to help you learn to do a long, gentle kick from the hips and some supervised practice on how to clear the snorkel and you will be amazed.. Possibly hooked on the sport!

Best wishes and Have Fun!
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I know the long freedive fins may "look" intimidating, but they are extremely efficient and will push you along at a good pace without any significant exertion.

I like long fins for diving but find that they do not work as well on the surface as shorter swim fins, because long fins will tend to leave the water during the rearward/upward portion of the swimmer's kick. In the pool, I use these very inexpensive fins and like them: Sporti Training Swim Fins (Color) at SwimOutlet.com

My longer fins are a pair of TUSA full foot Solla fins and a pair of Cressi Reaction fins. I like them both for SCUBA, and they're ok for snorkeling and freediving.
 
Wow! Thanks, everyone! I was feeling discouraged because my freestyle is poor due to lack of proper rotation when breathing. I looked over to the lanes with the Masters swimmers and felt like I would never be able to do what they do. (Wrmblueh20, I'm impressed.) I mean, could someone like me who had never even been in deep end before recently do this? I'm the only one in my class who can't tread water and opts for flipping onto my back for breaks.

However, I looked at the Total Immersion videos and started practicing the side swimming and rotation drills. (Altamira, I was rotating using my arms instead of my hips and core.) I also found out that my pool allows a center mount snorkel so I am slowly increasing my time practicing with that. Oh, 2airishuman, my short fins will be here in time for me to practice in a pool more than a week before the trip so hopefully, that will help strengthen my legs.

I'm convinced that water will get in my snorkel the moment I jump in the water. So I'm going to practice clearing the swimmer's snorkel without freaking out. This probably seems like a basic skill to you all but it doesn't feel natural to me. I'd rather practice in calm water first.

As for gear - I ordered a snorkel set off amazon last year when I joined my friends in shallow water in Destin. I guess I should get it from the shed and try it out for fit/seal. I bought it last minute before I could research and I think the fins are a lot shorter than the ones I've seen in pictures online. I still need to buy a good vest and as weird as it may sound, maybe a shorty wetsuit because I get cold even in warm water. Wouldn't mind the buoyancy either because I'm not planning on going below the surface.

I'm still nervous but I have some time to practice and prepare. Thank you, everyone, for the advice and kind words. It was more helpful than some of my instructor's guidance which is more geared toward swimming faster freestyle in a pool. My boyfriend said he couldn't offer advice because he can't remember not swimming and finds using a snorkel very natural. I'm so glad I found this board with such nice folks.
 

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