Suit filed in case of "Girl dead, boy injured at Glacier National Park
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Wookie
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137 pages, and I don’t know where else to find it.
https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21...6b6a988005752efa55bbd5b081f2&oe=60F901EB&dl=1
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"Every agency" does not give this option.
I don't see anywhere in the SDI standards that says I can pre-order certs. In fact it says students must complete all classroom, confined, and OW requirements and then I can submit their info for a certification.
I can't issue a cert for a future date in the SDI system. It won't let me. So no, I can't pre-order certs for SDI/TDI.
Which, even during the height of the pandemic, took an average of one week to issue the certs I had started and was able to finish in PA.
I was never told I could pre-order certs and in fact doing so, seems completely unethical to me. And why would I spend money on a cert that the student may never finish for some reason. When I submit a cert it takes on average of 30 seconds to get a temporary card via email to me and to the student.
The longest it took to get a cert last year from SDI/TDI to the student was 10 days. The cert requires we provide the date all parts of the class were completed. Sometimes we don't know if a date will be the one we planned on. How can any ethical instructor say with 100% certainty that the person will absolutely complete the class on said date? Weather, work, illness, etc. all can affect the outcome as well as when a student gets to OW and for whatever reason, freaks out and quits.
You still issue a pre-ordered cert? That's nuts.
When I was a YMCA or SEI Instructor, we were never told we could or should pre-order certs. That's putting the cart before the horse. You don't issue a cert until the student completes the requirements. Once they do, then you send in the info. Doing it prior to that opens the door for abuse of the system, rushing people through, and in essence, lying about who you certified.
Has this actually been filed with the court yet? The reason I ask is that out of curiosity I contacted the Clerk's office Monday morning (yesterday) to see if an answer had been filed. As of yesterday morning, all that was on file with the court was the original Complaint, and some materials related to admission of the attorneys. I did not see a summons, a return of service, or a filed waiver of service. I'll readily admit I don't know how civil procedure works in Montana, but as of yesterday morning, I did not see any indication that the Defendants have been served with the complaint or have any required timeline to respond.
My information is now maybe 36 hours old but was just wondering what was going on.
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Sounds pretty normal, actually. Inexperienced divers tend to attend AOW courses.
AOW divers are pretty inexperienced, too.
My CMAS one star diving class (corresponds to PADI OWD) included drysuit diving.
My first ever dive was in a drysuit. Thousands more did the same thing here.
Perfect!
OK, that is a problem. Drysuit squeeze can make moving difficult and the situation can thus escalate.
KevinNM
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Yeah, you could drown in a murky lake in Glacier National Park.
Did you read the lawsuit that was filed?
Obviously not. No way anyone would respond with such a response if they had.
