Sudafed in Cozumel with prescription?

[chillyinCanada]

I can’t read the first photo but going by the two others, the name change is because the antihistamine is different. Anyone not accustomed to these be cautious. They are first generation antihistamines and so considered sedative. In fact, some people use them as a sleep aid.

When Tramadol first hit the US it was not considered an opiate and so not controlled and was available in a combined pill with acetaminophen. But people being people of course they managed to abuse it so it went controlled in 2014 and dosed without the added Tylenol.

I found it helpful on a prn bases (I also usually take it with Ibu) but at a recent conference the speakers suggested it is more effective when used for chronic pain.

I was taking it both for chronic pain and prn. Nada effect but the specialist and I persevered. Ultimately, other treatments gave relief and now it's gabapentin with T4 as the prn.

 

[ggunn]

I laughed out loud!

Many iron supplements are the same color and shape (red and round) as Sudafed. Just take the next logical step....

Or, you could get a tiny little brush and some white water soluble non toxic white paint...

 

[El Graduado]

Or, you could get a tiny little brush and some white water soluble non toxic white paint...

Or, you could tie them up in a Trojan and swallow it, like other drug smugglers do!

 

[mediumone]

Or, you could tie them up in a Trojan and swallow it, like other drug smugglers do!

Reminds me of the book "Papillon"
A good story, albeit fiction.

 

[El Graduado]

Reminds me of the book "Papillon"
A good story, albeit fiction.

Below is an article I wrote about a Devil's Island breakout where the escaped prisoners ended up in Cozumel:

From Hell to Cozumel

Copyright 2011, Ric Hajovsky​

Like the story of Papillon, (the French prisoner played by Steve McQueen in the movie of the same name) who escaped from Devil’s Island, off the shores of the French penal colony of French Guiana, other daring escapes from the Iles du Salut have been attempted during the years the penal colony was in operation (1852 to 1946). One such story is the account of three different groups of escapees who managed to get away and eventually meet up together on the island of Trinidad.

“I was working in the garden of one of the administration buildings on Royal Island [one of the three islands that make up the Iles du Salut],” wrote Jean Duvernay in 1939, “and had been there for three months when, one day, I was along the beach fishing for shellfish and had the chance to speak with a fisherman from the mainland. This fisherman had a dugout canoe about seven meters long and about a meter and a half wide. At this particular time my friends, three of whom were with me on Royal Island, four on St. Joseph Island, and two on Devil’s Island, had turned over to me their savings, telling me they were counting on me to do the necessary. I had two thousand five hundred francs and offered the fisherman five hundred to remain in the passages between the Islands after dark and later turn over the canoe to us. One thousand was agreed upon.

I got the word to my friends and it was agreed that we would meet at a certain spot on my island as soon as it got dark. In spite of the danger of swimming in shark-infested waters between the islands, the bunch gathered as planned. Soon we were aboard after swimming out to the boat off the shore some little distance, as no boats are allowed close in at night. In a very short time we had taken the fisherman ashore, gathered together some food and were at sea, realizing that we might be sacrificing our lives for the sake of the liberty we all loved so much.”

Duvernay’s group became lost after a few days because of a defective compass and drifted aimlessly until a British freighter gave them water and provisions and pointed them toward Trinidad, their intended goal. They arrived in Trinidad a few days later where they met two groups of escapees who had managed to get away from the French Penal Colony as well. The three groups combined into one for a while in Trinidad, but later decided to spilt up and reform into three new groups, made up of new combinations of the members from each of the three original groups.

The first of the reformed groups (made of nine men) sailed to Colombia, where they were quickly recaptured and returned to French Guiana.

The second of the new re-combined groups, made up of 10 men, set sail for Haiti, but ended up wrecking on Curacao 12 days later. The people of Curacao gave them a new boat, but when they set sail for Aruba they wrecked their boat on the rocks of the harbor in Curacao just as they were leaving. The islanders gave them a third boat, which they sailed to Aruba, then onwards to Colombia. In Colombia, this group also splits up; three of the escapees eventually to be arrested and returned to the French penal colony, and the remaining seven of the group managed to continue on.

The third group managed to find a freighter in Trinidad that took them as far as the coast of Quintana Roo. There, at Punta Herrero, they were given one of the ship’s longboats and put adrift. This group was made up of Jonas Varennes, Pierre Pouillon, Germain Jolion, Fernando Girial, Jean Goutelle, and Louis Kieffer. From Punta Herrero, the six escapees hitched a ride on a Mexican Customs ship, which carried them and their small boat to Cozumel on August 15, 1938. There they sold the boat for $200 and were allowed to settle on the island, where they used the money to start new lives.

 

[DandyDon]

Or, you could tie them up in a Trojan and swallow it, like other drug smugglers do!

Or, you could get a tiny little brush and some white water soluble non toxic white paint...

I'll just stick with the white pills in the box...

 

[MN Lakeman]

Be careful when shopping alternatives. It's worth care to be mindful these different medications are often very different.

Pseudoephedrine is a sympathomimetic; it acts on hormone receptors on cell membranes. Think of it like a key/lock, or push/button approach for a hormone to trigger a reaction. Medicines that work this way may take action quickly.

Flonase is a steroid medicine. Steroids are often slower acting, though their effects may last longer (I don't want to over-generalize). From the Flonase website:

"Most achieve relief within 12 hours of starting their FLONASE nasal spray. But remember, it’s important to keep using it every day during allergy season as it takes three to four days before any FLONASE nasal spray builds up to full effectiveness—which means once a day allergy symptom relief."

So someone used to taking a pseudoephedrine product 'morning of' might better start Flonase days before.

Pseudoephedrine doesn't seem bad about rebound effects when taken continuously in the way some nasal sprays such as Afrin can be.

Phenylephrine doesn't have a good reputation as a decongestant; it's been likened to placebo.

Many years back, I mentioned to my GP doc during an annual physical that I had problems with clearing my ears, usually just the first couple days of a multi-day dive trip. Being a diver himself, he right away suggested Afrin. I swear by it now. I just use 1 squirt in each nostril before my first dive & RARELY have issues anymore. I've passed this on to other fellow divers & they agree.

 

[mstevens]

That’s a controlled narcotic pretty much everywhere.

Relatively few places. It became a controlled substance in the US only 8 years ago and in Canada just this year. It doesn't even require a prescription in all countries - Mexico is one example.

 

[mstevens]

Think you can find 365 deaths here? Let alone in a year.

Pseudoephedrine—Benefits and Risks - PMC

Pseudoephedrine (PSE) is a drug with a long history of medical use; it is helpful in treating symptoms of the common cold and flu, sinusitis, asthma, and bronchitis. Due to its central nervous system (CNS) stimulant properties and structural ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PubMed is really just a database of citations of research papers. It's not really the place to look for mortality statistics.

 

[BRT]

PubMed is really just a database of citations of research papers. It's not really the place to look for mortality statistics.

OK, give us some.