Struggling in midwater

[ArcticDiver]

I have to back off the debate there because I'm not a pilot.

Diving is different though and I don't even own an attitude indicator. We can't always use our gauge and we need to be prepared for that.

What I was trying to say Mike is that the human factors involved in loss of spatial orientation are very similar between flying and diving. You had pinned it all on one factor when there are more.

Now, the tools we have to cope with those factors are different. With modern technology they wouldn't have to be different, There is no reason a diver couldn't have a HUD (Heads Up Display) providing similar situational information to that a pilot has. It is just that no one has done it.

In the meantime we are stuck with the diving equivalent to Needle-Ball-Airspeed. It works with practice and skill. But will only provide equivalent results for the most currently active and proficient divers.


I posted this before reading the rest of the posts: Someone suggested the Oceanic mask. From what I've read it doesn't provide the kind of information that is pertinent to this situation. What I'm talking about is a real HUD similar to those used in many aircraft today.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

One of these?

That would mess with my bifocals something fierce ... think I'll stick to wearing my gauges on my wrist ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[redrover]

This might be the ideal situation where a heads up display like the Oceanic one will prove it's worth. With the procedures discussed in this thread of rotating through tasks coming back through and checking gauges, having the gauges always visible may make it easier. It brings in the flight corollary as well, as that is the solution they have for the heavy task loading of combat pilots.

I was thinking the same thing. Sure wish I could try one out and see if convenience justified replacement (computer) and cost of.

 

[redrover]

You can also do the old BC "elevator thing:"

As you exhale put short bursts into the vest. When you just start to move up hold the vest inflator hose as far down (deep) as you are able. Now hold the oral inflation button open. Bring the hose up till air starts to flow out of the mouthpiece, then lower it till it just stops. You know have an air siphon from your vest that you can use to control your level. The only problem is that the direction is counterintuitive, raise the mouthpiece up to descend and lower it to ascend. Remember to keep it OPEN ALL THE TIME.....

Thanks for mentioning that. Saw it before and not remembering execution details – anything counterintuitive is always a challenge. Wanting to be able to use that in particular for getting a bad yo-yo under control – seems a quicker way that what I’ve been doing. And always looking for having more than one way to accomplish goal.

 

[redrover]

I’m missing my flying variometer…for this, any other pilot types think of them?

 

[D_B]

Thanks for all the tips
Closing eyes sounds like a good one to practice with (scary too)
Scanning the Gage often/systematically is also a good one
Watching buddy out of corner of eye while performing task is another great tip ..... can do tasks in peripheral vision without actually focusing eyes there... Hunter Eyes ... I think I do that too, mostly while driving (Dad was a bow hunter) looking ahead, but concentrating on everything in your peripheral vision

 

[Thalassamania]

I’m missing my flying variometer…for this, any other pilot types think of them?

Every computer (assuming fast enough sampling) should be able to provide this function but I don't think many do. I waiting for an underwater bank indicator myself.

 

[Land Locked]

Every conputer (assuming fast enough sampling) should be able to provide this function but I don't think many do. I waiting for an underwater bank indicator myself.

I find a mix of old and new tecknologie works best.

 

[D_B]

:lol:

 

[Hoosier]

I find a mix of old and new tecknologie works best.

Yeap... The old comp is alway more reliable than the new toys. I can't understand why the new compure is over $1K compared to any electric appliance. :no