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seattlepaul1975

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Hello all...I am considering getting a video setup. This is going to be my first jump in so do not want to go big yet.....
I got my REI Catalog last week and saw this: Sony Action Cam Wearable Camcorder with Built-In Wi-Fi - Free Shipping at REI.com

I am torn between this and a GoPro3 Black. Yes I know that the GoPro is the leader...but the $199 entry price point on the Sony is inviting.
I dive in the Northwest (seattle area) not usually tropical if that is any impact on selection.

Thoughts on this?

Thanks!
 
I had already bought the GPhero3 when I saw some topside comparison which looked pretty good for the Sony and its steadycam feature...


Garth
 
You need to figure the cost of accessories into your total price. You will need to get the flat lens replacement door for underwater use ($35-50) and extra batteries are obscenely expensive. Color correction filters may not be available for that camera but if you plan to use video lights anyway, that becomes a non-issue.

The fact that they are unloading the cameras (even on the sony website) may be an indication that a new model is on the horizon. Or that they are throwing in the towel.
 
I personally wouldn't unless price is the overriding concern. The Sony is a 2MP camera. The GoPro Black is an 12MP camera that shoots 12MP stills. Or the Silver which is 11MP but also has the WiFi. I think for any of those Action Cams, WiFi is a good idea. The review listed below indicates that one you load the Sony, the only buttons you can access are the start/stop so to change anything requires removing it from the housing unless you have the WiFi. Also one cool feature is they both have video review on your phone or tablet with their app.

Steadycam (Image Stabilization) is generally a bad idea underwater as all the movement confuses it. I turn mine off. The Sony shoots 170o video standard - if you turn on the Image Stabilization, that changes to 120o. Not that that's bad, in some cases I prefer it since 170o tends to impart a fisheye look.

If you're interested in seeing what you're shooting in real-time, the GoPro with the BacPac is the only way to do that. The "Display Panel" on the Sony is only for camera status - http://asset1.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1...y_Action_Cam_HDR-AS15_35426716_07_610x436.jpg

CNet's review here:
Sony Action Cam Wi-Fi HDR-AS15 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review

I just watched several of the Sony videos on their website and on many I saw artifacting (pixel break-up in the scene) Wouldn't be for me on an HDTV - it's probably less noticeable on YouTube...And I've shot Sony video cameras underwater for the past decade so would be pre-disposed to like it.

In all fairness I have seen it on GoPro video also but mostly just on lower light scenes like the BMX ride through the forest. There's also another clip on the GoPro site of two freedivers that's as good as anything I've seen.

Also you'll need to buy a $50 flat port to use the Sony underwater. They bundle it with a surface port that allows the mic to be open to the outside while the camera is in the housing. The GoPro already includes one.

The other thing to be aware of is that the minimum focusing distance on the Sony is 12". With no zoom, macro is going to be difficult. The GoPro's suffer from the same problem but I think they improved it in the current "3" series.

For either in Seattle, you'll likely want lights. Due to the 170o coverage, probably 2 wide angle video lights often they're in the 70-100o range. Otherwise you'll see a hotspot in the center of your video with darkness around it. For comparison, most dive lights are in the 10-15o range. A pair of lights - and the tray for them - are double what the camera costs.

my .02 - I don't have any personal experience with any of them.
 
I have been looking at both and then I saw an Astak CM-7500. Looks good enough for me at 1080p and they price @ $169 with tons of accessories is a BIG Plus...These are mini camcorders and not PnS cameras IMO so the 12mp\14mp is moot to me.

However, if you have the cash or can save up I would go with the H3B...you will be much happier.
 
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