So...That's Diving in Cold Murky Water

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JanR

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After doing BOW in Tahiti and AOW in Hawaii, I ventured out to expand my diving experiences by doing the PADI Peak Performance Bouyancy Course at a local query.

Following my LDS's recommendation, I purchased a Henderson Gold Core 5/3 Hooded Vest to go under my 5mm suit and a pair of gloves.

I had pretty much resigned myself to the fact that this was going to be a rather boring and cold afternoon with the only saving grace that I was going to get to go make bubbles over two dives.

It turned out to be a beautiful day: clear with the air temperature just at 90 degrees. Fully suited up, getting to the water was a huge relief: 8mm of neoprene under the hot sun tends to become rather toasty.

Upon getting into the water, I was able to cool off, but got a false-sense of what was awaiting me. The surface water temperature was 81 degrees. After taking some time to get everyone through the bouyancy check: bobbing at mask depth with another 4 pounds tacked on to compensate for the AL80s on our back, we proceeded to snorkle out to the platforms.

As we descended, I thought to myself, this isn't too bad. Then at 25 feet, we hit the thermocline. What was a calm, "warm" day in the sun just became "holy goly", this is cold. (Except it wasn't "holy goly" that was going through my mind).

Upon getting to the 30ft platform, I found myself working to control my anxiety as the water around my face was awfully cold. However, I worked through it and found that although my face was cold, the rest of my body was actually fairly comfortable. Problem solved: just accept the frosty checks and enjoy the dive. After spending ten minutes having everyone do some fin pivots and drills, it was time for cruising around using our bouyancy skills at different depths.

The deepest point for this dive was 47 feet which was also obviously the lowest temperature: 50 degrees. However, I never found myself to be chilly. In fact, my air consumption didn't seem to be significantly worse than usual (although that still doesn't mean it is good--1355 PSI over 28 minutes)

I also found myself to find the 5-10 feet of visibility plenty enough to be enjoyable. In fact, moving through the water with features forming through the murk became exciting...never knowing what the next 20 feet was going to reveal.

The second dive went just as well.

What did I learn:

1. Diving is diving. As long as you have safe descents and even safer ascents, I'm going to love the dive.

2. In limited visibility, buddy contact is very, very important and diving in larger groups is incredibly difficult to achieve constant contact.

3. I still can not use fin pivots as a reliable method of finding my true bouyancy...not really a lesson here, but I can determine my bouyancy much faster and accurately by putting a few quick bursts into my BCD until I "feel" bouyant. Not the right answer, I'm sure, but it works.

4. Integrated weights are so much easier to use than a weight-belt. For this dive and this dive gear configuration, I found that my weight distribution (18 pounds) worked well with 6 pounds (3 each) in my trim pockets and remaining 12# (2x4# & 2-2# with the #4 weights near my center line) in the forward weight pockets left me very balanced and horizontal throughout the dive.

5. I need to work much more on paying attention to my periphial vision while diving, especially when diving with more than a single partner in limited visibility. Too easy to zig when someone else is zagging.

6. My kicks are horrible. My favorite is a gentle scull which works well for slowly moving over the bottom, but I still find myself working way too inefficiently whenever following a guide/group from point A to point B.

I'm still a novice diver, but I feel that this weekend really opened up my diving...

Just my thoughts.

Jan
 
I have only dove in conditions such as you describe so I can't relate to anything better. One thing I'd tell you based on my diving is that you can't put air into the BC until you feel right, if you do so with no reference you'll find yourself headed up to the surface. You can tell if you're sinking and rising to an extent, but it's not accurate.

By sculling did you mean you use your hands instead of fins?
 
come up north to mass and enjoy the cold in jan or feb...
the waters in the 40's..once your face numbs out you just enjoy the dive like anyother
there is alot to see in the cold water too
 
Oh no. My hands belong with my thumbs tucked inside my BCD's cumberbund with my left hand's fingers gently cupped around my AI-computer. By sculling (which very well may be the wrong verb) I mean gently moving my fins in and out propelling myself.

Yeah, you're probably right on the "feel neutral bouyant" thing. I'm probably fooling myself, but when I "feel neutrally bouyant" with a check against visual references or my computer, I have found I am usually neutrally bouyant.

Suggestions/comments/hints/pearls of sage wisdom appreciated.

Jan
 
Excellent! You learned all the right lessons that weekend. Especially the most important one: 1. Diving is diving! Cold water quarry diving can be great fun and a wonderful place to refine your skills.

Keep diving,

theskull
 
I've only done 1 day of quarry diving - but I agree with you that it has a great deal of appeal. Fresh water fish are so different and it's exciting (though we had 20-30ft vis and only 54*) seeing things form, seemingly in mid-air before your eyes is quite incredible. My favorite part was watching the catfish just "hover" and being quite jealous of their bouyancy control lol.

Aloha, Tim
 
The other thing about quarries is sometimes things don't materialize in front of you. I remember a couple months back I was swimming along and bam, there was a boulder smack dab in front of me which I found just as I hit it with my head. I wasn't sure what reaction to have other than laughing, see my buddy hit it a second after I did. Whomever stuck a boulder there must have had a sense of humor is all I can say...

IMO if you can dive a quarry with poor vis and have fun you'll be good to go anywhere you go. I've seen guys thumb a dive for vis of 20 feet, to me that's fantastic vis and I'd love to see it more often. I normally have 5 to 10 feet where I dive and temps of around 47 degree's in the summer at around 50 feet.

It's all good, have fun.
 
After doing my first discovery dives 3 yrs ago in the Bahamas, I was not very happy when doing my first couple checkout dives a month later up here off the the coast of Mass. I honestly thought "What the hell am I doing? This sucks." and I hated both dives even though I stuck through them.

Now being comfortable in the cold NE waters with 5' viz, I enjoy it quite a bunch and think I was being silly 3 years ago. Of course, when I travel to the Caribbean and get to dive there, I'm ecstatic with the temps and the viz.

It honestly gets better if you give it a chance!
 
Cummings66 makes a good point.

Diving in such demanding environments calls for a greater degree of development of diving skills.. This higher degree of development translates to better diving skills in other, more agreeable environments.

the K
 
I am happy to hear that you've smashed the cold water / limited visibility barrier. That opens many new dive oportunities. A frequent local diver can't help but become a safer and better diver. When you get to return to blue water it will seem sooooo care free.

As an almost esxclusively cold water diver a few thoughts.

1. When diving poor visibility, like less that 5-10 feet avoid team diving. Make sure everyone has a defined buddy. If the teams can stay together that's great. Diving 3 somes is dangerous. If one diver stops or has a problem # 2 may catch it but # is gone into the murk and the hunt begins. 2 divers can enjoy almost anything swimming abreast.

2. As far as buoyancy and depth control, rely on instruments when lacking a fixed reference. The particulate movement in the soup can be very misleading in every way.

3. AFAIC fin pivots are a neat tool to demonstrate what you can really do with lung volume but have no place in typical dives. You should slow your descent and use lung volume and some final bursts into your BC to halt your drop somewhene before the bottom. Add a bit more to your BC as you normalize your lung volume and start enjoying the bottom. If you touch down you will cause some significant silting.

Now all of the worlds waters are your playground.
Welcome to our world,

Pete
 

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