So Many BP/Wings to choose from!

[rgo]

Perhaps off the thread and a stupid question, but I've just started diving with an ss bp from zeagle. There's now a bit of a brownish tinge on the surface of the bp, as if rust is creeping in. Any tip?
Btw, I'm enjoying the ss bp/44lb wing combo. Dropped all 4kgs of weight I used to wear with my old BC, an Oceanic Probe.

 

[iflyprops]

Is COVCI the best place to get the Oxycheq stuff, I'm thinking about ordering one this week

Thanks

 

[nalfein]

Hey..

For what it's worth... I dive a 60# OMS wing, no bungees, with a bp/ 1 piece webbing setup. I'm very happy with it, no problems with trim, air trapping or any other complaints. My wife dives the same wing, with an IQ harness... she's happy with her setup save one issue... she's been having trouble in shallow water ( 30' ) with air trapping/releasing air from the wing. We dive the same size doubles, and she is a better diver than I am.... so I'm not really sure what the problem is, I can't see how the harness would make any difference. We're going to switch wings to see if I have the same trouble...
All that aside, we both like the gear, it's well made, and I've had no trouble whatsoever with mine.

 

[Scubaroo]

Is COVCI the best place to get the Oxycheq stuff, I'm thinking about ordering one this week

Thanks

Either www.covci.com & www.tech-blue.com should be able to give you a good deal.

 

[TLada]

I've been to 340 with OMS gear, a couple of times. Been to 270 pretty regularly. In fact, I've got about 1000 dives 200+ on my OMS 'wings of death'. I'll tell you what, it's a pretty comforting feeling knowing you've got 100 lbs of lift, enough to you and your buddy back to the surface.
I think the negative advertising going on may have to be rethunk - be critical of those who easily slam gear because they have something to gain. It's deceptive marketing - you are the victim. If you are in NJ, where wrecks reign supreme - OMS is king. If you are in the Florida caves - then Dive Rite/DIR.
Use your own brain on what makes sense for you, not what someone who has dove the same dive 10,000 times thinks is right for you.

 

[OneBrightGator]

Dismissing a whole range of products from a manufacturer just because they make the BWOD seems a bit dumb too, as Aquamaster mentions they have other wings without bungies but i still see regular postings here about 'i would never touch OMS blah blah BWOD blah blah blah'

The point is that their equipment has been proven to extreme depths even if it is oversized for normal usage. You dont see people saying i would never buy a ferrrari because they make F1 cars with big wings, or that North Face stuff sucks, did you see the size of the jacket that guy used on everest. Give em a break.

Yes, you're right, however if they make such poorly designed products I would take a hard look at the rest of their equipment.

Ok, I do have an issue with your second point. A larger then required wing creates more drag, has more air-shifting issues and has the potential to exacerbate a bad situation (i.e. stuck inflator), in the case of wings, bigger is not better.

Oh, and North Face stuff does suck ever since it was bought by Vanity Fair.

Ben

 

[OneBrightGator]

I've been to 340 with OMS gear, a couple of times. Been to 270 pretty regularly. In fact, I've got about 1000 dives 200+ on my OMS 'wings of death'. I'll tell you what, it's a pretty comforting feeling knowing you've got 100 lbs of lift, enough to you and your buddy back to the surface.
I think the negative advertising going on may have to be rethunk - be critical of those who easily slam gear because they have something to gain. It's deceptive marketing - you are the victim. If you are in NJ, where wrecks reign supreme - OMS is king. If you are in the Florida caves - then Dive Rite/DIR.
Use your own brain on what makes sense for you, not what someone who has dove the same dive 10,000 times thinks is right for you.

If you can't swim your rig up with a wing failure then you should have another source of lift, ideally a drysuit, but a lift bag will work, having a wing twice the size you need is not a good solution for the reasons I outlined in my last post.

Ben

 

[Scuba_Vixen]

Most of the issues with OMS stem from:

1) Lack of Class .... the way they advertise ... bashing others that they just coppied ..... barrel oring manifolds for starters
2) Vaporware ... the best things they advertise are still often vaporware long after appearing in add media ..... galvanized tanks anyone?
3) Customer Service .... what little they have is usually rude, nasty, and clueless

On the 100# wing issue ...
Use some intelligent reasoning here:

If 100# wings were actually usefull to many divers, then Every wing mfgr. would offer one in it's lineup ... no others offer such a useless monstrosity .....

It's OMS's catering to the "bigger is better" mentality (often associated with newer divers who are less skilled and knowledgable ... which puts them at greater danger) .... not to the "right gear for the intended purpose" mentality which usually comes with experience and maturation

Summing it up:

While few have issues with the actual quality of the items OMS can actually get to you ... Why would you want to deal with a second or third rate attitude, when there are so many so much better to choose from!

Just my thoughts and observations,

Darlene

 

[TLada]

Gator - I alway carry two lift bags, in addition to my 100lb redundant bladders. There is nothing wrong with having more lift than you need. Why is there a fixation on diving with the extreme minimum? Minimalist diving is fine, except when you dont have what you need.
How do you know the difference between efficiency and excess?

 

[TLada]

BTW - do we notice that the folks who say OMS are wings of death are marketing and endorsing and receiving royalties from the competing brand?