Smoking and Diving?

[maged_mmh]

guys, cool down a min. the original poll wasn't about whether smoking good or bad! that's obvious for smokers & non-smokers alike.
the aim, to my guess, is whether anyone has a "proven" scientific reference that says you should refrain from smoking prior to diving? and for how long before?

 

[seaducer]

We all make choices to assume personal risk for personal satisfaction. The same logic that's used to curtail the rights of smokers can just as easily, be used against divers, skiers, cyclists, the overweight, drinkers, cofee drinkers, meat eaters, those who won't eat fiber, etc.

Actually it can't. smoking causes lung cancer. Second hand smoke has been proven in scientific and medical studies to cause lung cancer. People who died and never smoked but lived with a smoker or worked with smokers were found to have lungs covered in tar, as if they themselves had smoked.

If I am diving, skiing, cycling, or whatever, it is not causing a negative impact on YOUR health, the way somebody who smokes effects MY health. I choose not to smoke, but many people do, and so I vote to have their filthy habit removed from my presence so that my health is not affected by someone else's less informed choice.

And having a non-smoking section in a building is like have a non peeing section in a pool. The only way to protect non smokers from smokers is to force the smokers to smoke someplace the rest of us can avoid altogether.

 

[ucfdiver]

Actually it can't. smoking causes lung cancer. Second hand smoke has been proven in scientific and medical studies to cause lung cancer. People who died and never smoked but lived with a smoker or worked with smokers were found to have lungs covered in tar, as if they themselves had smoked.

If I am diving, skiing, cycling, or whatever, it is not causing a negative impact on YOUR health, the way somebody who smokes effects MY health. I choose not to smoke, but many people do, and so I vote to have their filthy habit removed from my presence so that my health is not affected by someone else's less informed choice.

And having a non-smoking section in a building is like have a non peeing section in a pool. The only way to protect non smokers from smokers is to force the smokers to smoke someplace the rest of us can avoid altogether.

I think it's retarded for the gov to ban smoking. The people should do that. Around here, there's 1 pool hall that doesn't allow smoking, so that's the only one I don't go to. No government interference needed, just a shop owner doing what his patrons want. If a club allows smoking, I boycott them.

 

[garyfotodiver]

I think it's retarded for the gov to ban smoking. The people should do that. Around here, there's 1 pool hall that doesn't allow smoking, so that's the only one I don't go to. No government interference needed, just a shop owner doing what his patrons want. If a club allows smoking, I boycott them.

The retarded part is that, as I understand it, for many years the federal government subsidized tobacco growers. Just as they do the same for corn growers now.

Anybody read Atlas Shrugged? There was a description of subsidized soybean farming...

As Kohelet wrote, there is nothing new under the sun.

 

[Gambitt]

My point was,that smoking is no more dangerous than living in Hamilton Ontario ... Divers from Hamilton should be banned from diving!

Want to prove that? Just count the percentage of non-smokers who live in Hamilton, who die of lung disease, compared to the percentage of smokers who die from lung disease in Cobourg ON, where I live,a small rural community.

 

[Gambitt]

All I can suggest is that you do not smoke for 24 hours, take a pulmonary function test, have a cigarette and then retest. I've done that. 40% decrease. You're bright enough to figure it out from there.

And how many cigarettes do you smoke per day? I know many "couch-potatoe non-smoker divers" that I can out-run (endurance-wise) , even if I smoke DURING the Run.

Who would you rather run out of air with?

 

[Sas]

My point was,that smoking is no more dangerous than living in Hamilton Ontario ... Divers from Hamilton should be banned from diving!

Want to prove that? Just count the percentage of non-smokers who live in Hamilton, who die of lung disease, compared to the percentage of smokers who die from lung disease in Cobourg ON, where I live,a small rural community.

What exactly is your point here?

And how many cigarettes do you smoke per day? I know many "couch-potatoe non-smoker divers" that I can out-run (endurance-wise) , even if I smoke DURING the Run.

And they will probably be able to outrun and also outlive you when you are older and dying of a smoking related illness.

Smoking is moronic, and more so is defending it as something that is ok. Divers that are smokers are even more stupid than that. I smoked for years and still miss it after many years of not smoking so I'm not anti-smoking as such. When I was a smoker I knew it was stupid and would have never sought to defend it.

 

[Brian Sharpe]

And how many cigarettes do you smoke per day? I know many "couch-potatoe non-smoker divers" that I can out-run (endurance-wise) , even if I smoke DURING the Run.

Who would you rather run out of air with?

 

[vladimir]

My point was,that smoking is no more dangerous than living in Hamilton Ontario ... Divers from Hamilton should be banned from diving!

Want to prove that? Just count the percentage of non-smokers who live in Hamilton, who die of lung disease, compared to the percentage of smokers who die from lung disease in Cobourg ON, where I live,a small rural community.

If I took a year and a half to come up with a retort I'd want it to be a little better than that.

 

[TMHeimer]

Can't really vote. I smoke a pipe sparingly, and always after a dive -have had no problems. But that's not like a whole lot of cigarettes. I doubt the minimal inhaling with a pipe will affect DCS very much.