sidemounting steel bottles

[Etmar]

moving the cylinder would be for as an exambel when tugging the hoses away while on safty stop

You don't necessarily have to move your cylinder when tugging hoses back along he cylinder. Just modify the cylinder bungees so that you can easily lift them and push the hose along the cylinder while cylinder remain on side.

 

[J-Vo]

I run steel all the time on my Xdeep. This is absolutely a rigging problem and solving it will fix the trim.

100% agree, those tanks need to come up and toward the knees several CM. Rais the tank bands, shorten the bungees, shorten the lower leash/move the drop Ds inboard.

 

[Scuba fryd]

Take a picture of your harness so I can see why you can't move the drop D rings.
Also take a picture of your tank rigging.

What is the in water weight of those tanks?

i don't remember the weight and sadly forgot my measuring tool today my calculations say 2,7 kg at 50 bar with if i remember correctly, is pretty accurate from last time i measured

 

[Scuba fryd]

100% agree, those tanks need to come up and toward the knees several CM. Rais the tank bands, shorten the bungees, shorten the lower leash/move the drop Ds inboard.

i moved the tank bands up about 10 cm for today's dive like the other guy said. might be because i didn't thigten the bunngees but that only made the cylinders drop further below my knees. picture coming later
the leash to the carabin is as short as they get d rings are as far back as they get.

 

[Subcooled]

i never realy found out how to fic being heavy in the front.

The rear attachemnts (D-rings etc) of the cylinders should be moved forward. This would change the balance alleviating the weight in the front.

if i lay completly still i fall wery slowly forward

Indeed. Move the cylinder D-rings (or clips) forward or get heavier fins. You might want to prefer the former.

now i have the problem with falling forward and the buttom of my bottels being too low.

Yes. Those bottles need to be clipped very high up, near the spine.

i dive 2 7 liter 300 bar steel cylinders

I dive 2 7 liter 232 bar steel cyinders.
They are of a manageable weight.

i have heard sumthing about even tho my tanks are stamped 10 kg then a 10 liter stamped 12,3 shuld be lighter in the water would a switch be worth it ?

10 kg is the weight
10 litres floats 10 kg
12,3 litres float 12,3 kg
So, yes, the 12,3 is "lighter" in the water

 

[Cdncoldwater]

hmm i am not quiete sure how i would fix that if it was the bcd

Shoulder straps, waist belt and crotch strap adjustments.

 

[Scuba fryd]

The rear attachemnts (D-rings etc) of the cylinders should be moved forward. This would change the balance alleviating the weight in the front.

Indeed. Move the cylinder D-rings (or clips) forward or get heavier fins. You might want to prefer the former.

just had a dive were i moved the cam bands up about 10 cm made it kinda better in the start of the dive but got worse over time.

Yes. Those bottles need to be clipped very high up, near the spine.

yeah i figured just cant figure out how to get them higher up i cant move the d ring.

I dive 2 7 liter 232 bar steel cyinders.
They are of a manageable weight.

10 kg is the weight
10 litres floats 10 kg
12,3 litres float 12,3 kg
So, yes, the 12,3 is "lighter" in the water

 

[happy-diver]

Lucky I caught this I stay away from here out of respect so if you want some genuine steel bottle advice

GETTING SIDEMOUNT TANKS TO BEHAVE THEMSELVES AND SIT WHERE THEY SHOULD

By Steve Lewis One of the least mysterious things about sidemount diving is how to rig a set of steel primary cylinders so they hang at divers sides as they are supposed to, rather than hanging pen…

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Well I'm not a sidemount diver this is what I do when diving sidemount in my steel bottle environments

Building my own sidemount gear since AD 2000 ish

Remember when all those fixings were steel to steel

 

[Etmar]

How about a training with qualified sidemount instructor. It would speed up learning curve drastically. There are lot of things that needs adjusting in sidemount.